The good bits of Christianity from atheists' perspectives

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Re: The good bits of Christianity from atheists' perspectives

#61  Postby scott1328 » Mar 06, 2018 12:15 am

FYI, speaking as a former baptist, I find Animavore’s riddle simple.
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Re: The good bits of Christianity from atheists' perspectives

#62  Postby The_Piper » Mar 06, 2018 12:25 am

I'm naive of the difference between baptist and pentacostal, so I can't guess which one is for bigots.
One of my neighbors is a Pentacostal, and he's not a bigot.
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#63  Postby surreptitious57 » Mar 06, 2018 2:32 am

I also have no idea who is supposed to be the most bigoted of them
As they do not just align themselves to one particular denomination
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#64  Postby Keep It Real » Mar 06, 2018 2:48 am

Oh jesus I wish I could comment./
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#65  Postby SafeAsMilk » Mar 06, 2018 3:12 am

That's some 8th grade drama queen bullshit right there.
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#66  Postby Keep It Real » Mar 06, 2018 3:16 am

Pretty fly SAM; props.
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#67  Postby Keep It Real » Mar 06, 2018 3:24 am

I want to change my usernam to "expose the cool." Can't make any proper comments though still.
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#68  Postby The_Piper » Mar 06, 2018 3:40 am

I don't understand what you two are talking about. But I just saw SP's post about Christians, and I'm not trying to single him out but it made me... :shock:
Cue that meme of the guy trying to figure out what to say, but can't quite figure out where to begin.
But I had a similar reaction when I read that Slayer are Christian. That's just twisted. I didn't want to know that. Not that I'm a Slayer fan but :shock: :scratch: How can they believe that Jesus Christ died for their sins, and release that artwork and shit. What the fucking hell?
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#69  Postby SafeAsMilk » Mar 06, 2018 3:57 am

Keep It Real wrote:Pretty fly SAM; props.

Props for making it 12 hours, I guess?
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#70  Postby SafeAsMilk » Mar 06, 2018 4:22 am

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But I had a similar reaction when I read that Slayer are Christian. That's just twisted. I didn't want to know that. Not that I'm a Slayer fan but :shock: :scratch: How can they believe that Jesus Christ died for their sins, and release that artwork and shit. What the fucking hell?

I don't think they really have anything to do with each other. Araya says they were using scary images to scare people and fuck with them, make them wonder. They were contrasting themselves with all the glam metal stuff that was popular, which they saw as being very "pretty". They were trying to be "ugly". It's all about the imagery intensifying the music. Even openly Christian death metal bands don't put baskets of puppies on their covers, you know?

I also wouldn't be surprised if they see it as a kind of cautionary tale. They use a lot of war imagery, but as far as I know they aren't pro war.
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#71  Postby The_Piper » Mar 06, 2018 4:50 am

SafeAsMilk wrote:
The_Piper wrote:
But I had a similar reaction when I read that Slayer are Christian. That's just twisted. I didn't want to know that. Not that I'm a Slayer fan but :shock: :scratch: How can they believe that Jesus Christ died for their sins, and release that artwork and shit. What the fucking hell?

I don't think they really have anything to do with each other. Araya says they were using scary images to scare people and fuck with them, make them wonder. They were contrasting themselves with all the glam metal stuff that was popular, which they saw as being very "pretty". They were trying to be "ugly". It's all about the imagery intensifying the music. Even openly Christian death metal bands don't put baskets of puppies on their covers, you know?
I do now. :lol:
Slayer succeeded in ugly. I'd say they went above and beyond with the horse heads, raining blood, pentagrams, etc. I doubt their church choir would approve. :dopey:
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#72  Postby SafeAsMilk » Mar 06, 2018 5:01 am

The_Piper wrote:
SafeAsMilk wrote:
The_Piper wrote:
But I had a similar reaction when I read that Slayer are Christian. That's just twisted. I didn't want to know that. Not that I'm a Slayer fan but :shock: :scratch: How can they believe that Jesus Christ died for their sins, and release that artwork and shit. What the fucking hell?

I don't think they really have anything to do with each other. Araya says they were using scary images to scare people and fuck with them, make them wonder. They were contrasting themselves with all the glam metal stuff that was popular, which they saw as being very "pretty". They were trying to be "ugly". It's all about the imagery intensifying the music. Even openly Christian death metal bands don't put baskets of puppies on their covers, you know?
I do now. :lol:
Slayer succeeded in ugly. I'd say they went above and beyond with the horse heads, raining blood, pentagrams, etc. I doubt their church choir would approve. :dopey:

Probably not. But they have an interesting perspective, was just listening to an interview with Kerry King. Was asked about whatever song got them in trouble because of Nazi imagery or topics, he pointed out that they don't ask the History Channel if they're Nazis if they do a show on Nazi Germany :lol:
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Re: The good bits of Christianity from atheists' perspectives

#73  Postby The_Piper » Mar 06, 2018 5:12 am

True. :lol:
It's not that big of a deal, where many of their fans probably profess to believe in a god, while all the while not even knowing that Slayer do too. I had a Slayer album or two when I still thought there might be a god. I was just surprised. Meanwhile, somewhere in hell Jim Croce throws another mortal on the fire. :teef:
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#74  Postby SafeAsMilk » Mar 06, 2018 5:15 am

Just ran across this video. Start at 4:11.



The Dio interview right before that is great as well!
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#75  Postby The_Piper » Mar 06, 2018 5:49 am

Dio had the best comments in that video imo. I had to listen to The Last in Line before listening to the rest of the video. :mrgreen:
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Re: The good bits of Christianity from atheists' perspectives

#76  Postby BlackBart » Mar 06, 2018 8:24 am

SafeAsMilk wrote:
Keep It Real wrote:Pretty fly SAM; props.

Props for making it 12 hours, I guess?


Kind of like a hunger strike, between meals...and snacks.
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#77  Postby Scot Dutchy » Mar 06, 2018 12:14 pm

Luckily we dont have many xtians around. My old office was in what was called at one time the bible belt. We had a few xtian people in the office. Bigot is not the word.
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#78  Postby Skinny Puppy » Mar 11, 2018 6:02 pm

The_Piper wrote:I don't understand what you two are talking about. But I just saw SP's post about Christians, and I'm not trying to single him out but it made me... :shock:
Cue that meme of the guy trying to figure out what to say, but can't quite figure out where to begin.
But I had a similar reaction when I read that Slayer are Christian. That's just twisted. I didn't want to know that. Not that I'm a Slayer fan but :shock: :scratch: How can they believe that Jesus Christ died for their sins, and release that artwork and shit. What the fucking hell?
Cue that meme of the guy trying to figure out what to say, but can't quite figure out where to begin.


No, you’re not singling me out, since I wrote that you’re certainly free to comment on it. :cheers:

Yes I know, my post may appear to be at odds with being an atheist.

You already probably know this, but I was a fundie for much of my life. I don’t harbour any ill-will towards Xtians or the people that I was involved with.

I broke away from their ideology, but it was very hard to break away from them. They were good to me and for that I am grateful to them.

There is a definite void in my life now. With them I had a sense of belonging, camaraderie, people that I could turn to during times of crisis and so on. I’d be very hard pressed to speak derogatorily about them. Christianity can be destructive and bigoted, but (from my personal experience with them) I didn’t experience any of that. They were really good and decent people.
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#79  Postby Scot Dutchy » Mar 11, 2018 6:53 pm

Why dont I ever meet "good xtians"? I never do. I have met a couple of minister's wives willing to have sex in order I attended their husband's church.
The Dutch reformed reformed church is not organised. People have schisms and start another church. They are called chapter churches. These days they hardly exist but in the 50's there could be riots in some villages.
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#80  Postby aban57 » Mar 12, 2018 8:13 am

Skinny Puppy wrote:
The_Piper wrote:I don't understand what you two are talking about. But I just saw SP's post about Christians, and I'm not trying to single him out but it made me... :shock:
Cue that meme of the guy trying to figure out what to say, but can't quite figure out where to begin.
But I had a similar reaction when I read that Slayer are Christian. That's just twisted. I didn't want to know that. Not that I'm a Slayer fan but :shock: :scratch: How can they believe that Jesus Christ died for their sins, and release that artwork and shit. What the fucking hell?
Cue that meme of the guy trying to figure out what to say, but can't quite figure out where to begin.


No, you’re not singling me out, since I wrote that you’re certainly free to comment on it. :cheers:

Yes I know, my post may appear to be at odds with being an atheist.

You already probably know this, but I was a fundie for much of my life. I don’t harbour any ill-will towards Xtians or the people that I was involved with.

I broke away from their ideology, but it was very hard to break away from them. They were good to me and for that I am grateful to them.

There is a definite void in my life now. With them I had a sense of belonging, camaraderie, people that I could turn to during times of crisis and so on. I’d be very hard pressed to speak derogatorily about them. Christianity can be destructive and bigoted, but (from my personal experience with them) I didn’t experience any of that. They were really good and decent people.


From my experience, and it should be taken as it is, just personnal experience, the behaviour of a believer depends on his level of acceptance of his mythology. The stronger the belief, the more they are lunatic and destructive with others (who don't share their beliefs).
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