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daramantus wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5_x8U7SR0I
cavarka9 wrote:There might very well be certain things science has not yet explained about human limits, the answer for that shall also be science, not religion or woo.
I for example had experience of being able to predict the days my tutor would not show up. something like being right abt it for 5 times. Without any conscious intention. When I did intend to check 2 times, it didnt happen as i had wanted. I think, humans can probably pick a scent from perhaps long distance away, but only statistically.I knew instinctively that I was going to meet someone about a distance of 1-2 kms and I did. It can be tested out and explained perhaps. Also, when I was young, i used to play with friends with me blindfolded. I remember that by sound i could make out the shapes and people and move out in their direction. So, this patient could perhaps hear out the doctor and sense from sound the movements of the doctor.
So in my view, we can perhaps do more. Not enough money is put into these kinds of researches because the outcome is not seen to be worth the effort. As far as 'I am you' is concerned. There is no 'I' and no 'you'. We are all a part of universe, so we are all one. So, that is true. The whole universe could be a simulation, so yeah, perhaps jesus as a character might turn up anyday with game cheats. No one is looking for evidence that the universe is a simulation.
Thomas Eshuis wrote:cavarka9 wrote:There might very well be certain things science has not yet explained about human limits, the answer for that shall also be science, not religion or woo.
I for example had experience of being able to predict the days my tutor would not show up. something like being right abt it for 5 times. Without any conscious intention. When I did intend to check 2 times, it didnt happen as i had wanted. I think, humans can probably pick a scent from perhaps long distance away, but only statistically.I knew instinctively that I was going to meet someone about a distance of 1-2 kms and I did. It can be tested out and explained perhaps. Also, when I was young, i used to play with friends with me blindfolded. I remember that by sound i could make out the shapes and people and move out in their direction. So, this patient could perhaps hear out the doctor and sense from sound the movements of the doctor.
So in my view, we can perhaps do more. Not enough money is put into these kinds of researches because the outcome is not seen to be worth the effort. As far as 'I am you' is concerned. There is no 'I' and no 'you'. We are all a part of universe, so we are all one. So, that is true. The whole universe could be a simulation, so yeah, perhaps jesus as a character might turn up anyday with game cheats. No one is looking for evidence that the universe is a simulation.
The bolded bits are pure woo.
Also with regards to your predictions, given the fact that you got it wrong several times, what makes you think it's anything beyond blind luck?
cavarka9 wrote:Thomas Eshuis wrote:cavarka9 wrote:There might very well be certain things science has not yet explained about human limits, the answer for that shall also be science, not religion or woo.
I for example had experience of being able to predict the days my tutor would not show up. something like being right abt it for 5 times. Without any conscious intention. When I did intend to check 2 times, it didnt happen as i had wanted. I think, humans can probably pick a scent from perhaps long distance away, but only statistically.I knew instinctively that I was going to meet someone about a distance of 1-2 kms and I did. It can be tested out and explained perhaps. Also, when I was young, i used to play with friends with me blindfolded. I remember that by sound i could make out the shapes and people and move out in their direction. So, this patient could perhaps hear out the doctor and sense from sound the movements of the doctor.
So in my view, we can perhaps do more. Not enough money is put into these kinds of researches because the outcome is not seen to be worth the effort. As far as 'I am you' is concerned. There is no 'I' and no 'you'. We are all a part of universe, so we are all one. So, that is true. The whole universe could be a simulation, so yeah, perhaps jesus as a character might turn up anyday with game cheats. No one is looking for evidence that the universe is a simulation.
The bolded bits are pure woo.
Also with regards to your predictions, given the fact that you got it wrong several times, what makes you think it's anything beyond blind luck?
It will need experiment to check it out wouldnt it.
cavarka9 wrote: As far as I and you is concerned. My sense of 'I' is never constant, me as 8 yr old is totally different person to whom I am right now.
cavarka9 wrote: And If I were to suffer amnesia, what 'I' am would be different given my lack of memories.
cavarka9 wrote: So 'I' and 'You' is ever changing.
cavarka9 wrote: As far as being one is concerned. we are all part of the universe.
cavarka9 wrote: And considering that universe shall be the only stuff that shall ever exist and we shall all die and our atoms become parts of others and so on. we are one.
cavarka9 wrote:As far as getting it wrong is concerned, When i predicted that they wouldnt show up, i didnt do it out of want,
cavarka9 wrote: it just came to me.
cavarka9 wrote: when I said to my self" so and so wouldnt turn up " and they did, I was checking whether it had to do with intentions, long time back, mind you.
cavarka9 wrote: So I do think perhaps humans can pick up others scents from some distance away and even that perhaps requires us to not have conscious intentions. If we have intentions, then we might confuse ourselves. Yes, it would require experiments.
Thomas Eshuis wrote:
Until you do however, you have no rational basis to assume you have prophetic powers.
Thomas Eshuis wrote:cavarka9 wrote: And considering that universe shall be the only stuff that shall ever exist and we shall all die and our atoms become parts of others and so on. we are one.
Non-sequitur.
Even if our atoms become part of other configurations, they will never be a merging of a 100% of our atoms.
Thomas Eshuis wrote:cavarka9 wrote: So I do think perhaps humans can pick up others scents from some distance away and even that perhaps requires us to not have conscious intentions. If we have intentions, then we might confuse ourselves. Yes, it would require experiments.
And again, until you do, you have no rational basis to assume predictive powers.
cavarka9 wrote: I for example had experience of being able to predict the days my tutor would not show up. something like being right abt it for 5 times. Without any conscious intention. When I did intend to check 2 times, it didnt happen as i had wanted.
daramantus wrote:we are just 'information' stored somewhere.
cavarka9 wrote:
I for example had experience of being able to predict the days my tutor would not show up.
cavarka9 wrote:
The statement is to question 'I' as an entity of existence, we use it in our language to communicate. But doesnt exist for it changes .
cavarka9 wrote:Thomas Eshuis wrote:cavarka9 wrote: And considering that universe shall be the only stuff that shall ever exist and we shall all die and our atoms become parts of others and so on. we are one.
Non-sequitur.
Even if our atoms become part of other configurations, they will never be a merging of a 100% of our atoms.
Was only quoting Einstein " A human being is a part of the whole, called by us "Universe," a part limited in time and space. He experiences himself, his thoughts and feelings as something separate from the rest—a kind of optical delusion of his consciousness. The striving to free oneself from this delusion is the one issue of true religion. Not to nourish it but to try to overcome it is the way to reach the attainable measure of peace of mind."
daramantus wrote:we are just 'information' stored somewhere.
cavarka9 wrote:
I believe this is a strawman, never claimed prophetic powers. Please show me where I did that?
cavarka9 wrote:Thomas Eshuis wrote:cavarka9 wrote: So I do think perhaps humans can pick up others scents from some distance away and even that perhaps requires us to not have conscious intentions. If we have intentions, then we might confuse ourselves. Yes, it would require experiments.
And again, until you do, you have no rational basis to assume predictive powers.
It is not about me, it is about human beings, I am making a hypothesis that can be tested and checked out that perhaps human beings can pick up scents of others(or not picking up others scents) unconsciously and realize the possibility of someone approaching or not.
daramantus wrote:I was reading some pseudoscience, to get some laughts, when I read a text that said that "We are all one" after death.
Meaning that "I am you", and "you are me". We are all connected after life, We are all one "consciousness", and we are all love, blah blah
What's the evidence? That we all gonna be friends , connected , etc?
If after life everything's a hell ? With Clows, Devil Entities? (I know It's a retarded idea, but who knows? If they say absurd claims, I can too) Even if after life there's a wave field and we all gonna be in form of energy, what's the prove that we all gon' be together?
There are proofs out there, with people who did OBE and saw devil entities, etc.. (which can be pure imagination) but even though, no one has even seen connection between people.. or "pure love" etc..
I know that some of you will be like "There is no life after dead" , but try to understand my view to debunk this retarded 'New Age crap.
Thomas Eshuis wrote:cavarka9 wrote:
I believe this is a strawman, never claimed prophetic powers. Please show me where I did that?
See my other response to you.cavarka9 wrote:Thomas Eshuis wrote:cavarka9 wrote: So I do think perhaps humans can pick up others scents from some distance away and even that perhaps requires us to not have conscious intentions. If we have intentions, then we might confuse ourselves. Yes, it would require experiments.
And again, until you do, you have no rational basis to assume predictive powers.
It is not about me, it is about human beings, I am making a hypothesis that can be tested and checked out that perhaps human beings can pick up scents of others(or not picking up others scents) unconsciously and realize the possibility of someone approaching or not.
That's not the same as actually predicting anything though.
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