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Re: Theism, atheism and science

#41  Postby surreptitious57 » Apr 22, 2019 3:32 am


I dont think we burn them alive anymore
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Re: Theism, atheism and science

#42  Postby Spearthrower » Apr 22, 2019 10:49 am

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I dont think we burn them alive anymore



I think you may have overlooked the historical context.
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Re: Atheism & Science

#43  Postby Pridefel Knowitelz » Apr 26, 2019 3:30 pm

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Pridefel Knowitelz wrote:I'm flattered that you felt the need to start a thread dedicated to my questions about atheism, even though I've just joined the forum. I don't really have any new questions right now, but erm...thanks.

Don’t feel too flattered. You realize you’re going to take an ass kicking here, don’t you? You are about to tilt at windmills, for all the good it will do you.


Oh I see, tough guy. You're all going to type stuff that will show up on my screen, and presumably I'm going to read every last word of it all and get scared. OK, do what you must. Let me just get in the fetal position.

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And by the way, I don't read long posts on forums written by people who mean nothing to me. It's a waste of time. So keep them short otherwise you're just talking to yourselves.
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Re: What's the battiest thing you ever heard a believer say?

#44  Postby Pridefel Knowitelz » Apr 26, 2019 3:43 pm

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Not every atheist is an expert in cosmology.


What makes you think any significant percentage of atheists is an expert in it, or an expert in anything for that matter? All you have to do to be an atheist is to not believe in God. You don't have to be knowledgeable, or even be intelligent.
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Re: Atheism & Science

#45  Postby Spearthrower » Apr 26, 2019 3:44 pm

Pridefel Knowitelz wrote:
And by the way, I don't read long posts on forums written by people who mean nothing to me. It's a waste of time. So keep them short otherwise you're just talking to yourselves.



Awww!

Cute! Can we keep it?
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Re: What's the battiest thing you ever heard a believer say?

#46  Postby Spearthrower » Apr 26, 2019 5:37 pm

Pridefel Knowitelz wrote:
Regina wrote:
Not every atheist is an expert in cosmology.


What makes you think any significant percentage of atheists is an expert in it, or an expert in anything for that matter? All you have to do to be an atheist is to not believe in God. You don't have to be knowledgeable, or even be intelligent.



You're preaching to the choir.

I expect every rational member of this forum has stated this at some point in their many years here, PK. It's part and parcel of employing rational thinking, for which you also don't actually need to be knowledgeable or intelligent.

But then, atheists don't have a belief system that promises them some elevated position, no dogma that pertains to be from the ultimate font of all knowledge, no doctrinal certainty of which they feel obliged to defend. So it's understandable that atheists and agnostics don't pretend to knowledge they don't have.... that's the theist's purview.

It's easy sitting on the sidelines sniping though. Do you have anything worth saying here, anything that constitutes a positive contribution? Do you wish to stake out a piece of intellectual territory you're prepared to defend through evidence, reason and/or logic?
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Re: What's the battiest thing you ever heard a believer say?

#47  Postby Pridefel Knowitelz » Apr 26, 2019 9:26 pm

Define a positive contribution.
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Re: What's the battiest thing you ever heard a believer say?

#48  Postby Spearthrower » Apr 26, 2019 11:08 pm

Pridefel Knowitelz wrote:Define a positive contribution.


Define 'define'.
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Re: What's the battiest thing you ever heard a believer say?

#49  Postby Regina » Apr 26, 2019 11:58 pm

Pridefel Knowitelz wrote:
Regina wrote:
Not every atheist is an expert in cosmology.


What makes you think any significant percentage of atheists is an expert in it, or an expert in anything for that matter? All you have to do to be an atheist is to not believe in God. You don't have to be knowledgeable, or even be intelligent.

You don't say.
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Re: Atheism & Science

#50  Postby Thomas Eshuis » Apr 27, 2019 7:12 am

Pridefel Knowitelz wrote:


And by the way, I don't read long posts on forums written by people who mean nothing to me. It's a waste of time. So keep them short otherwise you're just talking to yourselves.

As long as you realise that your refusal to respond won't hide your failure to address valid rebuttals to your claims.
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Re: Atheism & Science

#51  Postby Pridefel Knowitelz » Apr 27, 2019 10:02 am

Thomas Eshuis wrote:
Pridefel Knowitelz wrote:


And by the way, I don't read long posts on forums written by people who mean nothing to me. It's a waste of time. So keep them short otherwise you're just talking to yourselves.

As long as you realise that your refusal to respond won't hide your failure to address valid rebuttals to your claims.


My response is that I'm unconvinced.
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Re: Theism, atheism and science

#52  Postby Svartalf » Apr 27, 2019 10:05 am

interesting, since that's everybody's response to your posts.
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Re: Theism, atheism and science

#53  Postby Pridefel Knowitelz » Apr 27, 2019 10:09 am

Svartalf wrote:interesting, since that's everybody's response to your posts.


I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything. I'm asking you lot to justify your position, which of course you are failing to do.
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Re: Atheism & Science

#54  Postby Spearthrower » Apr 27, 2019 10:22 am

Pridefel Knowitelz wrote:
My response is that I'm unconvinced.



Unconvinced by what?
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Re: Theism, atheism and science

#55  Postby Macdoc » Apr 27, 2019 11:02 am

Well he's convinced me he's a blithering idjit with zero to contribute beyond being a stale chew toy.
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Re: Theism, atheism and science

#56  Postby Spearthrower » Apr 27, 2019 12:26 pm

Pridefel Knowitelz wrote:
Svartalf wrote:interesting, since that's everybody's response to your posts.


I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything. I'm asking you lot to justify your position, which of course you are failing to do.



No, you're just trolling for a reaction.

You've not actually asked anyone to justify any position whatsoever. You've erected a few strawmen that were promptly knocked over, and that seems to have been the sum of your game as you've basically retreated into sniping already.
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Re: Theism, atheism and science

#57  Postby Spearthrower » Apr 27, 2019 2:25 pm

Your signature:

The burden of proof falls on the atheist.


Tee hee.
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Re: Theism, atheism and science

#58  Postby laklak » Apr 27, 2019 2:47 pm

What position?
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Re: Theism, atheism and science

#59  Postby Cito di Pense » Apr 27, 2019 2:47 pm

laklak wrote:What position?


Um, that would be the missionary position. If you say you can, the proof is in the, er, pudding.
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Re: Theism, atheism and science

#60  Postby Alan B » Apr 27, 2019 3:43 pm

The burden of proof falls on the atheist.

No, it doesn't - by definition.
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