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by BigRed » Mar 14, 2010 9:11 pm
I have no proof or citations for his but I heard somewhere Mohammad was a child molestor? Can anyone back this up? I am not trying to be disrespectful just trying to validate this.
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Re: Mohammad
#2 by IIzO » Mar 14, 2010 9:12 pm
We,ve got an Islam sub forum.Maybe you should ask for this thread to be moved there
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Re: Mohammad
#3 by Sityl » Mar 14, 2010 9:13 pm
He married and had sex with at least one 14 year old that I know of.
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Re: Mohammad
#4 by BigRed » Mar 14, 2010 9:15 pm
Oops sorry didn't mean to post in the wrong spot. I never know the best place to post stuff. LOL
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Re: Mohammad
#5 by katja z » Mar 14, 2010 9:18 pm
num1cubfn wrote:He married and had sex with at least one 14 year old that I know of.
That was Aisha, who was 9 years old. You'll find plenty of citations on "I am Muslim" and "I am Muslim. Part 2" threads (islam/i-am-muslim-part-2-t2264.html).
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Re: Mohammad
#6 by james1v » Mar 14, 2010 9:20 pm
BigRed wrote:Oops sorry didn't mean to post in the wrong spot. I never know the best place to post stuff. LOL
Mo married Aisha when she was six, consummated the marriage when she was 9.
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Re: Mohammad
#7 by UnderConstruction » Mar 14, 2010 9:21 pm
Hell, just pick a thread. Any thread. It gets mentioned just about every time his name comes up.
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Re: Mohammad
#8 by BigRed » Mar 14, 2010 9:27 pm
Really? I had never heard it until recently.
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Re: Mohammad
#9 by Millefleur » Mar 14, 2010 9:31 pm
Well the holy book says he married a 6 yr old and had sex with her when she was 9, all the writings by Muslim scholars I've seen agree it happened and yet you'd be hard pressed to find any muslim that will agree Mo was a kiddie fiddler. Even the ones that agree it shouldn't happen now can't agree that dirty old Mo was a pervert.
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Re: Mohammad
#10 by ixolite » Mar 15, 2010 8:37 am
BigRed wrote:I have no proof or citations for his but I heard somewhere Mohammad was a child molestor? Can anyone back this up? I am not trying to be disrespectful just trying to validate this.
Here you go, for the short version skip to post #3:
http://www.faithfreedom.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10197
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Re: Mohammad
#11 by 95Theses » Mar 15, 2010 8:44 am
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Re: Mohammad
#12 by Shrunk » Mar 15, 2010 3:17 pm
Millefleur wrote:Well the holy book says he married a 6 yr old and had sex with her when she was 9, all the writings by Muslim scholars I've seen agree it happened and yet you'd be hard pressed to find any muslim that will agree Mo was a kiddie fiddler. Even the ones that agree it shouldn't happen now can't agree that dirty old Mo was a pervert.
Just a minor point of clarification: If by "holy book" you mean the Quran, it's not actually mentioned there. It is copiously documented in the Hadith, however.
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Re: Mohammad
#13 by Oeditor » Mar 15, 2010 4:08 pm
While you're making the distinction, what exactly is/are the Sunnah? I gather it means "sayings" - are these all made up, like the Hadiths?Shrunk wrote:Just a minor point of clarification: If by "holy book" you mean the Quran, it's not actually mentioned there. It is copiously documented in the Hadith, however.
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Re: Mohammad
#14 by Mycernius » Mar 15, 2010 5:09 pm
Millefleur wrote:Well the holy book says he married a 6 yr old and had sex with her when she was 9, all the writings by Muslim scholars I've seen agree it happened and yet you'd be hard pressed to find any muslim that will agree Mo was a kiddie fiddler. Even the ones that agree it shouldn't happen now can't agree that dirty old Mo was a pervert.
I have had muslims say that muslim women reach maturity faster than western women, to try to get around this one.
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#15 by katja z » Mar 15, 2010 5:13 pm
Oeditor, here's what wikipedia has to say on the Sunnah and the hadith:
The Sunnah is the manner or deeds of Muhammad and validated by the consensus of companions of Muhammad (Sahaba) in Sunni Islam, and the way or deeds of Muhammad and the twelve Imams in Shi'a Islam, while hadith is a collection of the narrations and approvals. The two words are sometimes taken to be interchangeable, referring to the Traditions, but difference lies depending on the context. Scholars of Hadiths have studied the narrations from their context (matn) as well as from their transmitters (isnad) in order to establish the hadith and discriminate the false ones from the true or proper ones. These were influential in the development of early Muslim philosophy and modern scientific citation. The allegiance to the tribal sunnah, which had been partially replaced during the time of the Prophet by submission to a new universal authority, and the feeling of brotherhood among all Muslims which had replaced Muhammad's death.
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Re: Mohammad
#16 by Oeditor » Mar 15, 2010 5:18 pm
OK, I stand corrected: mostly made up.katja z wrote:Oeditor, here's what wikipedia has to say on the Sunnah and the hadith:
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#17 by Oeditor » Mar 15, 2010 5:23 pm
Ah, yes, I'd forgotten. The speed of light's quite a bit faster in Arabia, isn't it?Mycernius wrote:I have had muslims say that muslim women reach maturity faster than western women, to try to get around this one.
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Re: Mohammad
#18 by Mycernius » Mar 15, 2010 5:27 pm
Oeditor wrote:Ah, yes, I'd forgotten. The speed of light's quite a bit faster in Arabia, isn't it?Mycernius wrote:I have had muslims say that muslim women reach maturity faster than western women, to try to get around this one.
I don't kow whether it is an apocraphal story or not, but I once read that and air stwardess once said "We are now landing in Saudi Arabia. Please put your clocks back 500 years."
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Re: Mohammad
#19 by Shrunk » Mar 15, 2010 6:23 pm
Oeditor wrote:OK, I stand corrected: mostly made up.katja z wrote:Oeditor, here's what wikipedia has to say on the Sunnah and the hadith:
I'm not sure why they'd make up a story about their prophet being a child molester unless it was true.
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Re: Mohammad
#20 by Alan B » Mar 15, 2010 7:17 pm
Mycernius wrote:I have had muslims say that muslim women reach maturity faster than western women, to try to get around this one.
Yeah, right!
How the hell would they know? Their women are always covered-up, well in Saudi at any rate.
That's just an excuse so can they screw prepubescent girls...
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