mass grave at Catholic home
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DougC wrote:
Un-fucking-belevable.
The children of these women were denied baptism and segregated from others at school. If they died at such facilities, they were also denied a Christian burial.
County Galway death records showed that most of the children buried in the unmarked grave had died of sickness or disease.
igorfrankensteen wrote:Actually, it is not yet known why the institution decided to do as they did, and repeated the decision over and over again. We only know so far, that they did so.
Not excusing this even remotely, mind you, just fighting as I always do, for factual analysis over hyperbole.
chairman bill wrote:Next time a True Believer tells me that as an atheist I have no moral guide, I shall ask them about the 800 children, dumped amid the shit & piss of a septic tank.
blindfaith wrote:whats your opinion on this mick? i'd be very interested to hear your apologetics on this one
surreptitious57 wrote:Many children of the time were adopted by rich Americans and the mother had to waive all rights to the child for life. And there was an absolutely heartbreaking documentary made by Martin Sixsmith of one of the women who had never seen her son since he was taken from her when she was put in one of these homes. She managed to find it again over forty years later and asked the nuns if she could have access to information they had so she could trace him. But they absolutely point blank
refused and if I remember correctly she later discovered he had died so she never got to see him. But had they given her the information she could have traced him but they chose not to all because of that waiver she signed decades ago. Unbelievable
I was surprised to find that the home in the OP was in Galway since that is the next county to where my mother comes from [ Mayo ] One of the photographs of the children is dated 1924 which is the year she was born. I wonder if there are more of these unmarked graves scattered around Ireland. I would not be the least bit surprised if there were. What is almost beyond belief is how no one noticed for over thirty five years. I say almost because I am no longer surprised at what human beings do to each other. The sooner the species becomes extinct the better. Seriously
A Government inquiry into the mother and baby homes will not be confined to St Mary’s in Tuam, Minister for Children Charlie Flanagan has said.
“Tuam was not unique in Ireland as a mother and baby home. Mother and baby homes were not unique in Ireland as cold and brutal places of refuge from an unforgiving society,” he said in a statement this afternoon.
It was expected that officials will advise the Government on the best form of inquiry “before the end of the month”, he said.
Animavore wrote:http://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/mother-and-baby-inquiry-will-go-beyond-tuam-says-flanagan-1.1821947A Government inquiry into the mother and baby homes will not be confined to St Mary’s in Tuam, Minister for Children Charlie Flanagan has said.
“Tuam was not unique in Ireland as a mother and baby home. Mother and baby homes were not unique in Ireland as cold and brutal places of refuge from an unforgiving society,” he said in a statement this afternoon.
It was expected that officials will advise the Government on the best form of inquiry “before the end of the month”, he said.
There've been a lot of headlines over the past few days in the Irish papers talking about 'shock' and 'horror' over this business. The thing I found most shocking or horrifying was how absolutely un-surprised I actually was.
Fallible wrote:And when too much power is placed in the hands of untouchables.
Without Nuremberg, the nature of Hitlerism and its effect on the German people would have been more difficult to record. Through the overwhelming mass of verbal and documentary evidence introduced in the trial, we get a clearer picture of the sort of men and women who served Hitler. Many were ordinary people. Immense powers, even of life and death, were conferred upon them. Often they were corrupted, brutalised and finally destroyed by their own petty tyrannies. (Page 323)
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