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Re: Brexit

#7101  Postby GrahamH » Apr 10, 2019 1:51 pm

Revoke Article 50: MPs are gradually moving towards cancelling Brexit

Theresa May will head to Brussels on Wednesday to request another delay to Brexit in order to prevent Britain crashing out of the EU without a deal.
However, with no sign of an end to the political crisis in the UK, the threat of a no-deal Brexit is still on the table.
Even senior members of May's government are starting to talk about cancelling Brexit by revoking Article 50.
More than 6 million people have signed an official government petition calling for it to be revoked.
Senior MPs say there would be a House of Commons majority for doing it in order to avoid no-deal.

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#7102  Postby Scot Dutchy » Apr 10, 2019 3:51 pm

Well the conditions the EU are laying down it is almost a logical response.
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Re: Brexit

#7103  Postby GrahamH » Apr 10, 2019 4:06 pm

EU makes reasonable demand (again)

France is expected to demand the removal of the post of British European commissioner as a price for a long Brexit delay, leaving Britain without a seat at the top table of Brussels decision-making for the first time since 1973.
Senior EU sources say the French president, Emmanuel Macron, is likely to seek to entrench the UK’s reduced status in the EU at the leaders’ Brexit summit on Wednesday evening.
It is understood the commission is backing the plan. “The commission will demand this; it is logical,” said one senior EU diplomat, adding that a British commissioner could not take a seat “if the term of the mandate is short”. A French spokesman declined to comment on its position.

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Re: Brexit

#7104  Postby minininja » Apr 10, 2019 6:06 pm

What?! You mean we had our own seat amongst those unelected bureaucrats?

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Re: Brexit

#7105  Postby ronmcd » Apr 11, 2019 12:01 am

So it's 31st October extension?

I’m just gonna say it now. If we don’t have an election or referendum before then we will be back here in the week of the 31st October and repeating all of this again.

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Re: Brexit

#7106  Postby OlivierK » Apr 11, 2019 12:19 am

Not sure whether congratulations or commiserations are in order.
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Re: Brexit

#7107  Postby Beatsong » Apr 11, 2019 12:34 am

Halloween - how appropriate. I wonder what Jacob Rees-Mogg will wear.


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Re: Brexit

#7108  Postby Matt_B » Apr 11, 2019 1:07 am

Six months is enough time for a referendum, if MPs can get it voted through in the next few weeks.

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Re: Brexit

#7109  Postby fisherman » Apr 11, 2019 1:23 am

Or time for a new PM?

btw - fuck brexit already :puke2:
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Re: Brexit

#7110  Postby Macdoc » Apr 11, 2019 2:23 am

I'd almost say they destroyed brand UK even amongst the citizenry.....bunch a fuckwits.
y'know that blackhole....they got a foot deep in the event horizon

Maybe put the fuckwittery to eliminating the House of Lords.

World recession being bantered about, a blithering fool in the White House and the UK has fucked itself.

At the least cancelling Brexit for the forseeable future and rewriting the rules for a leave/stay referendum might do the least damage.
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Re: Brexit

#7111  Postby Blip » Apr 11, 2019 7:51 am


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Re: Brexit

#7112  Postby Tracer Tong » Apr 11, 2019 8:01 am

Matt_B wrote:Six months is enough time for a referendum, if MPs can get it voted through in the next few weeks.

Would they? Should they?


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Re: Brexit

#7113  Postby Sendraks » Apr 11, 2019 11:49 am

Why no?
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#7114  Postby CarlPierce » Apr 11, 2019 11:51 am

Matt_B wrote:Six months is enough time for a referendum, if MPs can get it voted through in the next few weeks.

Would they? Should they?


No, Yes.
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Re: Brexit

#7115  Postby ronmcd » Apr 11, 2019 12:17 pm

OlivierK wrote:Not sure whether congratulations or commiserations are in order.

Classic EU fudge. Those who wanted a long extension, ie most of the other countries, hoped we might then reconsider the whole thing. Macron wanted no long extension at all. So middle point, and no good to anybody really, barely enough time to have a referendum, and the politicians? Theyre going on holiday now.

We're fucked.

Oct 31st we will go through this all again.
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Re: Brexit

#7116  Postby ronmcd » Apr 11, 2019 12:18 pm

CarlPierce wrote:
Matt_B wrote:Six months is enough time for a referendum, if MPs can get it voted through in the next few weeks.

Would they? Should they?


No, Yes.

This. Unfortunately. Tories will be concerned only with the Tory party for the next few months, and time will be gone.
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Re: Brexit

#7117  Postby Scot Dutchy » Apr 11, 2019 1:10 pm

Who benefits from this extension? May wont be around. The Brexiteers dont as it only further delay of getting their money safe. The UK economy will only further suffer. What about EU elections? This looks almost the worst of all options.
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Re: Brexit

#7118  Postby ronmcd » Apr 11, 2019 1:16 pm

Scot Dutchy wrote:Who benefits from this extension? May wont be around. The Brexiteers dont as it only further delay of getting their money safe. The UK economy will only further suffer. What about EU elections? This looks almost the worst of all options.

There's no way for them to get rid of may.
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Re: Brexit

#7119  Postby mrjonno » Apr 11, 2019 1:22 pm

I'm not sure anyone really wants to get rid of May deep down.

Who would want this job in the current circumstances? , you would have to be utterly nuts
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Re: Brexit

#7120  Postby tuco » Apr 11, 2019 2:06 pm

So what kind of extension did you want? IMO it shows how flexible the EU can be if needed.

btw you need to cheer up a bit. Pessimism helps nothing.

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