Mike_L wrote:

Mike_L wrote:

Willie71 wrote:http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/01/14/five-facts-about-fox-news/

http://www.salon.com/2015/02/08/america ... ral_truth/

http://www.media-studies.ca/articles/war_propaganda.htm

http://warmovies.about.com/od/TopPicks/ ... -Films.htm

http://www.globalresearch.ca/cnn-is-bea ... ia/5436746

Ffs, this thread is like:

Statement: we're conversing in English.

Counter:no we're not. Where's the citations?

Isn't it obvious?

You have to prove a positive assertion.

Really, isn't it kinda obvious?

No, there's non-English words in here.

Here's examples of English.

You didn't prove this one word us English.

ED209 wrote:Absolutely no different to the pictures of the (palestinian?) toddler dressed up in a mock suicide vest that caused a furore a while ago - can't actually remember whether or not that was a piss-take, but clearly there are USians who celebrate unfit parenting at face value.

Weaver wrote:

Mike_L wrote:<snip>

Are you trying to post absolutely obtuse rubbish, or you just incapable of finding something relevant on Google?

Those are fucking pictures of military brats - children of military parents, who are quite typically dressed similar to how their military parent dresses. That isn't indoctrination or grooming any more than letting the child of a construction worker wear a hard hat, or letting my kid wear my fire helmet is. It's fucking play dress-up for children.

The stupidity in this thread is simply mind-boggling.

Weaver wrote:

ED209 wrote:Absolutely no different to the pictures of the (palestinian?) toddler dressed up in a mock suicide vest that caused a furore a while ago - can't actually remember whether or not that was a piss-take, but clearly there are USians who celebrate unfit parenting at face value.

Because the US Military is famous for conducting suicide vest attacks, and because the children in those photos have weapons of any sort.

Stupid analogy is fucking stupid - you've succeeded in dumbing this thread down even further, something I'd have thought impossible.

My child wearing portions of my uniforms, whether they're fire uniforms, or EMS uniforms, or nursing uniforms or military uniforms, does not make me an unfit parent.

Thinking it does might demonstrate that you don't know shit about parenting, though.

purplerat wrote:FFS, this is like when people see pictures of kids in a bathtub and think it's child pornography.

Rachel Bronwyn wrote:

purplerat wrote:FFS, this is like when people see pictures of kids in a bathtub and think it's child pornography.

Or pictures of children seated in adult's laps. That worries us too now. It could mean something funny is going on.

purplerat wrote:

Rachel Bronwyn wrote:

purplerat wrote:FFS, this is like when people see pictures of kids in a bathtub and think it's child pornography.

Or pictures of children seated in adult's laps. That worries us too now. It could mean something funny is going on.

Won't anybody think of the children! But don't think of them too much or else you are a perv.

Access to schools isn't the only route into children's lives, however. The Department of Defense spends billions each year on video game development, as Mead's book documents. The Army has even developed its own realistic simulation game, "America's Army," and recruiters give kids access to trailers full of video game consoles where they can play it.

Then there's sponsoring and consulting on Hollywood films (a partnership that goes back to the dawn of the film industry). Journalist Nick Turse, in his book The Complex, quotes Transformers (2007) producer Ian Bryce enthusing about the movie's Pentagon ties: "We want to cooperate with the Pentagon to show them off in the most positive light, and the Pentagon likewise wants to give us the resources to be able to do that."

Mike_L wrote:

purplerat wrote:

Rachel Bronwyn wrote:

purplerat wrote:FFS, this is like when people see pictures of kids in a bathtub and think it's child pornography.

Or pictures of children seated in adult's laps. That worries us too now. It could mean something funny is going on.

Won't anybody think of the children! But don't think of them too much or else you are a perv.

The DOD thinks about the children...

Access to schools isn't the only route into children's lives, however. The Department of Defense spends billions each year on video game development, as Mead's book documents. The Army has even developed its own realistic simulation game, "America's Army," and recruiters give kids access to trailers full of video game consoles where they can play it.

Then there's sponsoring and consulting on Hollywood films (a partnership that goes back to the dawn of the film industry). Journalist Nick Turse, in his book The Complex, quotes Transformers (2007) producer Ian Bryce enthusing about the movie's Pentagon ties: "We want to cooperate with the Pentagon to show them off in the most positive light, and the Pentagon likewise wants to give us the resources to be able to do that."

[OP article]

purplerat wrote:

Mike_L wrote:

purplerat wrote:

Rachel Bronwyn wrote:

Or pictures of children seated in adult's laps. That worries us too now. It could mean something funny is going on.

Won't anybody think of the children! But don't think of them too much or else you are a perv.

The DOD thinks about the children...

Access to schools isn't the only route into children's lives, however. The Department of Defense spends billions each year on video game development, as Mead's book documents. The Army has even developed its own realistic simulation game, "America's Army," and recruiters give kids access to trailers full of video game consoles where they can play it.

Then there's sponsoring and consulting on Hollywood films (a partnership that goes back to the dawn of the film industry). Journalist Nick Turse, in his book The Complex, quotes Transformers (2007) producer Ian Bryce enthusing about the movie's Pentagon ties: "We want to cooperate with the Pentagon to show them off in the most positive light, and the Pentagon likewise wants to give us the resources to be able to do that."

[OP article]

So we're back to "blame it on the video games and movies"?

Well I guess if the OP is circa 1991...

Animavore wrote:

purplerat wrote:

Mike_L wrote:

purplerat wrote:
Won't anybody think of the children! But don't think of them too much or else you are a perv.

The DOD thinks about the children...

Access to schools isn't the only route into children's lives, however. The Department of Defense spends billions each year on video game development, as Mead's book documents. The Army has even developed its own realistic simulation game, "America's Army," and recruiters give kids access to trailers full of video game consoles where they can play it.

Then there's sponsoring and consulting on Hollywood films (a partnership that goes back to the dawn of the film industry). Journalist Nick Turse, in his book The Complex, quotes Transformers (2007) producer Ian Bryce enthusing about the movie's Pentagon ties: "We want to cooperate with the Pentagon to show them off in the most positive light, and the Pentagon likewise wants to give us the resources to be able to do that."

[OP article]

So we're back to "blame it on the video games and movies"?

Well I guess if the OP is circa 1991...

Blaming video games for the Department of Defense spending billions on making propaganda video games?

purplerat wrote:

Animavore wrote:

purplerat wrote:

Mike_L wrote:

The DOD thinks about the children...


[OP article]

So we're back to "blame it on the video games and movies"?

Well I guess if the OP is circa 1991...

Blaming video games for the Department of Defense spending billions on making propaganda video games?

Either I'm supposed to be worried about video games turning my kids into a psychopathic murderer or not, right?

Skinny Puppy wrote:

Willie71 wrote:

Skinny Puppy wrote:

Willie71 wrote:


Are you suggesting that the propaganda in the example isn't propaganda?

I wrote this:

Prediction: Before this thread ends you won’t have written even one sensible statement that contains any facts or data.

My bad, I should really have said it this way:

Prediction: Before this thread ends you won’t have written even one sensible statement that contains any facts or data with regards to the OP’s survey.

Your posts thus far have been about:

• Pro-military propaganda
• Pro-war attitudes
• Insulting member(s) who don’t genuflect to your ideas
• More insults ‘cause you didn’t like what was posted in reply
• That your age gives you insights which are denied to younger people
• Using minority examples rather than speaking about the majority of military personnel
• Speaking about the Canadian military


So far you’ve yet to address the actual survey which is what this thread is all about.

Fuck that's laughable. Hyperbole much?

This thread isn't just about the survey, which you haven't seemed to accept in spite of it being pointed out several times.

Explaining away a single incident within a pattern isn't intellectually honest, is it?

How about you answer the question as to whether you acknowledge the fucking obvious evidence in the link I provided that there is pro military propaganda in the USA.

The title of this thread is:
Kindergarten children groomed for US war machine.

Are they really?

On that page it says:

That's why we were shocked this November when, shortly after Veterans Day, our daughter came home from kindergarten with a worksheet that asked the children to decide which branch of the military they would like to join. The class had been working on charts in math class, taking polls and graphing the results, which usually fell more along the lines of what flavors of pie they preferred.

Spot anything odd there?

The OP then goes on to state:

The Horton principal has also admitted that military tanks have been brought to career events at the school and children have been allowed to crawl through them! After telling this to one parent, he reassured her that the children are not allowed to bring toy guns to school. Wonderful logic, isn't it?

(Horton = Horton Elementary School in San Diego County)

Care to guess what year that happened? Hint: it happened later in the year after the Santa visit.

It also says ‘tanks’, actually it was ‘one’ tank and the school promised it wouldn’t happen again.

How about you answer the question as to whether you acknowledge the fucking obvious evidence in the link I provided that there is pro military propaganda in the USA.

What does that have to do with the OP's survey?

purplerat wrote:

Animavore wrote:

purplerat wrote:

Mike_L wrote:

The DOD thinks about the children...


[OP article]

So we're back to "blame it on the video games and movies"?

Well I guess if the OP is circa 1991...

Blaming video games for the Department of Defense spending billions on making propaganda video games?

Either I'm supposed to be worried about video games turning my kids into a psychopathic murderer or not, right?

Mike_L wrote:

Access to schools isn't the only route into children's lives, however. The Department of Defense spends billions each year on video game development, as Mead's book documents. The Army has even developed its own realistic simulation game, "America's Army," and recruiters give kids access to trailers full of video game consoles where they can play it.

Willie71 wrote:

purplerat wrote:

Animavore wrote:

purplerat wrote:
So we're back to "blame it on the video games and movies"?

Well I guess if the OP is circa 1991...

Blaming video games for the Department of Defense spending billions on making propaganda video games?

Either I'm supposed to be worried about video games turning my kids into a psychopathic murderer or not, right?

At risk kids are affected by fantasy violence. Well adjusted kids better differentiate fantasy from reality. This has been studies for decades. The answer has been available for a long time.

Mike_L wrote:

purplerat wrote:

Rachel Bronwyn wrote:

purplerat wrote:FFS, this is like when people see pictures of kids in a bathtub and think it's child pornography.

Or pictures of children seated in adult's laps. That worries us too now. It could mean something funny is going on.

Won't anybody think of the children! But don't think of them too much or else you are a perv.

The DOD thinks about the children...

Access to schools isn't the only route into children's lives, however. The Department of Defense spends billions each year on video game development, as Mead's book documents. The Army has even developed its own realistic simulation game, "America's Army," and recruiters give kids access to trailers full of video game consoles where they can play it.