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Re: President Trump Watch.

#5181  Postby crank » Mar 28, 2017 12:54 pm

This is some really serious, really ominous BS, from The Guardian:

I am an Arctic researcher. Donald Trump is deleting my citations

I am an Arctic researcher. Donald Trump is deleting my citations
Victoria Herrmann
These politically motivated data deletions come at a time when the Arctic is warming twice as fast as the global average
melting ice
‘In the waning days of 2016 we were warned: save the data.’ Photograph: Andrew Stewart / SpecialistStock
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As an Arctic researcher, I’m used to gaps in data. Just over 1% of US Arctic waters have been surveyed to modern standards. In truth, some of the maps we use today haven’t been updated since World War II. Navigating uncharted waters can prove difficult, but it comes with the territory of working in such a remote part of the world.

Over the past two months though, I’ve been navigating a different type of uncharted territory: the deleting of what little data we have by the Trump administration.

At first, the distress flare of lost data came as a surge of defunct links on January 21st. The US National Strategy for the Arctic, the Implementation Plan for the Strategy, and the report on our progress all gone within a matter of minutes. As I watched more and more links turned red, I frantically combed the internet for archived versions of our country’s most important polar policies.

I had no idea then that this disappearing act had just begun.
...
We’ve seen this type of data strangling before.

Just three years ago, Arctic researchers witnessed another world leader remove thousands of scientific documents from the public domain. In 2014, then Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper closed 11 Department of Fisheries and Oceans regional libraries, including the only Arctic center. Hundreds of reports and studies containing well over a century of research were destroyed in that process – a historic loss from which we still have not recovered.
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Re: President Trump Watch.

#5182  Postby Scot Dutchy » Mar 28, 2017 1:10 pm

Melania Trump: Thousands sign petition for First Lady to move to White House or pay for Trump Tower security


The First Lady and her son Barron are staying in New York until he finishes school


Nearly 100,000 people have signed a petition calling for Melania Trump to move into the White House or to foot the security bill for staying in Trump Tower herself.

A senior aide revealed last month that the First Lady and her 10-year-old son Barron will remain in New York until the summer, to allow him to finish his school year before transferring to Washington DC.

The Change.org petition has over 92,000 signatures since it launched a week ago. It will be delivered to the US Senate and Senators Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren once it reaches its goal of 150,000 supporters.

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Re: President Trump Watch.

#5183  Postby Pulsar » Mar 28, 2017 4:45 pm



Best one I've seen so far :lol:
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Re: President Trump Watch.

#5184  Postby Alan B » Mar 28, 2017 7:30 pm

crank wrote:This is some really serious, really ominous BS, from The Guardian:

I am an Arctic researcher. Donald Trump is deleting my citations

I am an Arctic researcher. Donald Trump is deleting my citations
Victoria Herrmann
These politically motivated data deletions come at a time when the Arctic is warming twice as fast as the global average
melting ice
‘In the waning days of 2016 we were warned: save the data.’ Photograph: Andrew Stewart / SpecialistStock
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Victoria Herrmann is the Managing Director of The Arctic Institute and a National Geographic Explorer
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@vsherrmann
Tuesday 28 March 2017 06.00 EDT
As an Arctic researcher, I’m used to gaps in data. Just over 1% of US Arctic waters have been surveyed to modern standards. In truth, some of the maps we use today haven’t been updated since World War II. Navigating uncharted waters can prove difficult, but it comes with the territory of working in such a remote part of the world.

Over the past two months though, I’ve been navigating a different type of uncharted territory: the deleting of what little data we have by the Trump administration.

At first, the distress flare of lost data came as a surge of defunct links on January 21st. The US National Strategy for the Arctic, the Implementation Plan for the Strategy, and the report on our progress all gone within a matter of minutes. As I watched more and more links turned red, I frantically combed the internet for archived versions of our country’s most important polar policies.

I had no idea then that this disappearing act had just begun.
...
We’ve seen this type of data strangling before.

Just three years ago, Arctic researchers witnessed another world leader remove thousands of scientific documents from the public domain. In 2014, then Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper closed 11 Department of Fisheries and Oceans regional libraries, including the only Arctic center. Hundreds of reports and studies containing well over a century of research were destroyed in that process – a historic loss from which we still have not recovered.


In the light of this, perhaps all results, citations, etc. should be duplicated on discrete removable HDDs and also several hard copies made before uploading to a central database. Also, put into effect alternative secure upload sites.
I'm surprised that this is not already being done.

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Since this practice by politicians has been carried before (3 years ago), I suspect a certain naivety on the part of the researchers, here.
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Re: President Trump Watch.

#5185  Postby crank » Mar 28, 2017 7:53 pm

It's not much of a step to Stalin type erasures from history
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When the state starts erasing, and creating, the the public record, the shitstorm obliterates the fan.
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Re: President Trump Watch.

#5186  Postby Alan B » Mar 28, 2017 8:11 pm

That was then, when there was usually only one original negative or document to 'doctor'.
These days 'instant' multiple copies can be made so any deletions or alterations can immediately be detected and rectified.

But that still doesn't stop the mentally deficient politicians trying the same tricks. It's part of their mentality.

The scientific community should get together and develop secure multiple database systems with encrypted access for the data originators.
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Re: President Trump Watch.

#5187  Postby crank » Mar 28, 2017 10:44 pm

Alan B wrote:That was then, when there was usually only one original negative or document to 'doctor'.
These days 'instant' multiple copies can be made so any deletions or alterations can immediately be detected and rectified.

But that still doesn't stop the mentally deficient politicians trying the same tricks. It's part of their mentality.

The scientific community should get together and develop secure multiple database systems with encrypted access for the data originators.

That's true for a lot of shit, but doesn't apply to info released from the security agencies, the military, etc. Same for data from government sources in general, the info can be doctored before it gets released, or just buried when it isn't 'correct'. The Shrubsters did such crap routinely.
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Re: President Trump Watch.

#5188  Postby Macdoc » Mar 29, 2017 11:44 pm

WASHINGTON—Note to U.S. President Donald Trump and House Republicans: People really don’t like your approach to overhauling America’s health care. If you’re hoping to revive the effort, you may want to try something different.

Sixty-two per cent of Americans turned thumbs down on Trump’s handling of health care during the initial weeks of his presidency, according to a poll by The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research released Wednesday. It was his worst rating among seven issues the poll tested, which included the economy, foreign policy and immigration.

Of the six health coverage changes the poll assessed from the failed House GOP bill, five drew more negative than positive reviews.

An overwhelming 8 in 10 opposed the Republican proposal to let insurers boost premiums on older people. Seven in 10 disapproved of premium surcharges for people whose coverage lapses.

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By wide margins, people also disliked proposed cuts in Medicaid, which helps lower-earning people cover medical costs, a halt in federal payments to Planned Parenthood and a transformation of the Obama law’s subsidies — based on income and premium costs — into aid linked to age.

“His campaign promise was great health care for everyone, for all Americans at great prices,” said Raymond Brown, 64, a Republican and retired truck driver from Rio Grande, New Jersey. “He isn’t fulfilling his campaign promise.”


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Re: President Trump Watch.

#5189  Postby Spinozasgalt » Mar 30, 2017 5:31 am

I'm hearing that the halt thing on the travel ban has been extended.
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Re: President Trump Watch.

#5190  Postby The_Piper » Mar 30, 2017 5:35 am

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Re: President Trump Watch.

#5191  Postby crank » Mar 30, 2017 10:09 am

Well, it seems like ExxonMobile doesn't want us to pull out of the Paris accord on climate change and Bernie gets a little tweak in, “It is pathetic”: Bernie Sanders slams Trump after ExxonMobil urges White House to abide by Paris climate accord:
...According to Bloomberg, Trump’s order lays out “a broad blueprint for the Trump administration to dismantle the architecture that former President Barack Obama built to combat the phenomenon.”

As Trump’s White House seeks to unravel Obama’s greenhouse gas commitments, a most unlikely ally of the largest climate change compact has emerged to lobby the new president.

The Paris accord is “an effective framework for addressing the risks of climate change,” a senior Exxon official wrote in a letter to the president’s special assistant for international energy and the environment. “We welcomed the Paris Agreement when it was announced in December 2015 and again when it came into force in November 2016,” Peter Trelenberg, Exxon’s manager for environmental policy, wrote to the White House...


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The reasons for the corporate behemoth's urging don't sound all that related to climate change.

In the March 22 letter the official from the energy giant, which currently is under investigation for its accounting practices related to climate change, argued that the Paris Agreement presents an opportunity to support greater use of natural gas. “It is prudent that the United States remain a party to the Paris agreement to ensure a level playing field, so that global energy markets remain as free and competitive as possible,” Trelenberg wrote to the Trump administration.


And a bit of a twist, because, well, anything related to this admin is twisted at some, or every, level:
Trump’s administration, however, may be more divided about the Paris Agreement than his actions convey. His secretary of state, former Exxon CEO Rex Tillerson, indicated last week that he would support the Paris Agreement with some relaxations and adjustments. Tillerson believes that staying with the climate deal could help the country diplomatically, according to The New York Times, while Trump’s senior adviser, Stephen Bannon, is pressing the president to officially pull the U.S. from the accord.

Former Vice President Al Gore has suggested that Trump will ultimately agree with Exxon, pointing to reports that Ivanka Trump, the first daughter who has an official role at the White House, will make climate change one of her “signature issues.”
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Re: President Trump Watch.

#5192  Postby Scot Dutchy » Mar 30, 2017 10:48 am

The large oil companies are not suddenly changing colour but are looking after their investments. 45 wants to open the coal mines. Oil companies dont do coal mines but are investing heavily into green energy.
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Re: President Trump Watch.

#5193  Postby felltoearth » Mar 30, 2017 1:04 pm

My understanding is that Natural Gas is cheaper to bring to market.
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Re: President Trump Watch.

#5194  Postby Alan B » Mar 30, 2017 2:47 pm

Maybe. But it still produces CO2 when burnt, although not as much as coal and oil, I understand. :ask:

And consider that if there is a pipeline leak then methane and other gasses will be directly vented to the atmosphere without going through the combustion process.
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Re: President Trump Watch.

#5195  Postby The_Piper » Mar 30, 2017 3:09 pm

Exxon should invest in cheap land for wind and solar panel farms.
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Re: President Trump Watch.

#5196  Postby Fenrir » Mar 30, 2017 3:17 pm

The_Piper wrote:Exxon should invest in cheap land for wind and solar panel farms.
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Exxon should ask Trump for free federal land to put wind and solar farms on. That could fry his brain, if he had one.
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Re: President Trump Watch.

#5197  Postby Teague » Mar 30, 2017 3:57 pm

I found this amusing article....


The Death Panels Are Coming

With Obamacare open enrollment about to begin anew, rumors of trouble in Healthcare Paradise run rampant. Enrollment has dropped to 30% below Congressional Budget Office estimates; fully 1 million of the 8.1 million people who originally signed up for Obamacare dropped out.

But Obamacare’s shoddy implementation doesn’t even begin to scratch the surface of its great evil. Obamacare architect Jonathan Gruber quite correctly attributed the passage of Obamcare to “lack of transparency” and the “stupidity of the American voter” – because it turns out that Obamacare will ration care, and that the most well-respected bodies in terms of health rationing have already recommended cutting off services.

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Re: President Trump Watch.

#5198  Postby Scot Dutchy » Mar 30, 2017 4:24 pm

You are quoting Breitbart? Fake news?
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Re: President Trump Watch.

#5199  Postby Teague » Mar 30, 2017 4:32 pm

So after losing, the GOP are blaming the democrats for losing because they didn't vote on throwing people off healthcare.

"We ALMOST got Obamacare repelaed, we almost did we're sorry we failed but...but...democrats!!!" - The GOP

How are they not being called out for wanting to ruin peoples health care? It's like they think it's a good thing to screw over 25 million people and give tax breaks for the rich.

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Re: President Trump Watch.

#5200  Postby Agi Hammerthief » Mar 30, 2017 6:58 pm

Obviously it's the communists Dems' fault that people are not getting rich, because thats what communism means.
so the poor people have to vote in the Repugs so the super rich can have more money for it to trickle down and make the poor rich. And once that worked and you are one of the lucky many ex-poor, you wouldn't want all your wealth be stolen by communist shit like health care.

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