Don't worry, Farage will never be elected. I've just spotted the picture of him drinking INDIA Pale Ale, when he should be swigging Foster's. What a toff...

ED209 wrote:

surreptitious57 wrote:

jez9999 wrote:
Surely UKIP has expanded beyond merely a single issue party by now

Yes as one of their policies is to leave Europe and the other is to stop immigration

That's an unfair oversimplification, they have lots of policies:

1. leave the EU
2. deport the blacks
3. deport the poles
4. public consultation on what to do with the gays (deport to france?)

Well, four anyway

Don't forget privatising the NHS and cutting the taxes of high earners.

Removing tax on tobacco and booze another.

jez9999 wrote:

surreptitious57 wrote:Assuming that there are going to be no more by elections between now and the General Election then it shall have to be an unbelieveably tight result if UKIP are going to hold the balance of power. And so they should try not to labour that point too much between now and then. It would be ironic however if a minority Conservative Government ruled with their support so allowing the 2017 referendum to take place which then resulted in it leaving Europe and UKIP no longer with a raison d etre

Surely UKIP has expanded beyond merely a single-issue party by now. I'd be disappointed if they disbanded when we got out of the EU. They should stick around as an interesting new force in British domestic politics with generally libertarian policies to keep shaking things up, rather than going back to the extremely tired old situation.

They might just lower the level of British politics. Mind it is hard to see how much lower you can get but mind you give Garage a chance I am quite sure he would succeed.

Seems that the other parties are now actively engaging in a race to the bottom.

Who's bottom

Scot Dutchy wrote:

jez9999 wrote:

surreptitious57 wrote:Assuming that there are going to be no more by elections between now and the General Election then it shall have to be an unbelieveably tight result if UKIP are going to hold the balance of power. And so they should try not to labour that point too much between now and then. It would be ironic however if a minority Conservative Government ruled with their support so allowing the 2017 referendum to take place which then resulted in it leaving Europe and UKIP no longer with a raison d etre

Surely UKIP has expanded beyond merely a single-issue party by now. I'd be disappointed if they disbanded when we got out of the EU. They should stick around as an interesting new force in British domestic politics with generally libertarian policies to keep shaking things up, rather than going back to the extremely tired old situation.

They might just lower the level of British politics. Mind it is hard to see how much lower you can get but mind you give Garage a chance I am quite sure he would succeed.

What about liberalizing drugs law? They are a libertarian party so they may well support that. Would that be lowering the level of politics?

jez9999 wrote:...
What about liberalizing drugs law? They are a libertarian party so they may well support that. Would that be lowering the level of politics?

I admire your commitment to researching your posts and indeed political affiliation

ED209 wrote:

jez9999 wrote:...
What about liberalizing drugs law? They are a libertarian party so they may well support that. Would that be lowering the level of politics?

I admire your commitment to researching your posts and indeed political affiliation

But that is the problem with Ukip the may do a lot of things. Typical pub talk. That is where Garage lives? I bet you he may have a smoking area in his local.

Scot Dutchy wrote:

ED209 wrote:

jez9999 wrote:...
What about liberalizing drugs law? They are a libertarian party so they may well support that. Would that be lowering the level of politics?

I admire your commitment to researching your posts and indeed political affiliation

But that is the problem with Ukip the may do a lot of things. Typical pub talk. That is where Garage lives? I bet you he may have a smoking area in his local.

And the fact that they want to allow smoking in public smoking areas is a good sign that they mean what they say about bringing back some personal liberties from the grubby hands of the state. Why should cannabis users be criminalized??

jez9999 wrote:

Scot Dutchy wrote:

ED209 wrote:

jez9999 wrote:...
What about liberalizing drugs law? They are a libertarian party so they may well support that. Would that be lowering the level of politics?

I admire your commitment to researching your posts and indeed political affiliation

But that is the problem with Ukip the may do a lot of things. Typical pub talk. That is where Garage lives? I bet you he may have a smoking area in his local.

And the fact that they want to allow smoking in public smoking areas is a good sign that they mean what they say about bringing back some personal liberties from the grubby hands of the state. Why should cannabis users be criminalized??

WTF It is my personal liberty to expect to go into a pub and not get gassed by idiots puffing their lungs out. As for cannabis do me favour. Cigarettes stink enough but that crap stinks even more.

If Garage wants to smoke let him do in a back room where he belongs.

Thank goodness most of well almost of the "Koffie shops" are shut.

jez9999 wrote:
And the fact that they want to allow smoking in public smoking areas is a good sign that they mean what they say about bringing back some personal liberties from the grubby hands of the state. Why should cannabis users be criminalized??

Riiiight, because removing the right of people not to be exposed to other people smoking in public places is improving people's personal liberties. Never mind the improvements in health and well being that followed the smoking ban.

I don't mind cannabis use being decriminalized, but same as cigarette smoke, it should be banned in public places. I don't want that stink on my clothing and I shouldn't have my liberty to move around public spaces without having to endure someone elses stench infringed upon.

What about liberalizing drugs law? They are a libertarian party so they may well support that. Would that be lowering the level of politics?

Actually Farage has withdraw the comment about UKIP being libertarian, its slightly libertarian apparently now.

As much as I hate libertarianism at least officially its against having laws discriminating gay people and foreigners. We couldn't have that could have that in the BNP/UKIP

mrjonno wrote:

What about liberalizing drugs law? They are a libertarian party so they may well support that. Would that be lowering the level of politics?

Actually Farage has withdraw the comment about UKIP being libertarian, its slightly libertarian apparently now.

As much as I hate libertarianism at least officially its against having laws discriminating gay people and foreigners. We couldn't have that could have that in the BNP/UKIP

In other words Ukip MAY be libertarian.

Scot Dutchy wrote:Thank goodness most of well almost of the "Koffie shops" are shut.

Wow, so you're one of the miserable intolerant conservatives that are ruining NL, eh? That sucks.

jez9999 wrote:

Scot Dutchy wrote:Thank goodness most of well almost of the "Koffie shops" are shut.

Wow, so you're one of the miserable intolerant conservatives that are ruining NL, eh? That sucks.

I don't run anything. We have a democratic directly elected government by PR.

Briton wrote:Shocker. I fully expected the Libdems to break the 1% barrier.

Most Lib Dems, safe in the knowledge that they were never going to win here, voted Tory to try to keep UKIP out, which is completely understandable, indeed moral and creditable. If UKIP were a mathematical equation they would be Tories multiplied by Labour to the power of Racism. So basically the opposite of liberal democracy.

Strontium Dog wrote:

Briton wrote:Shocker. I fully expected the Libdems to break the 1% barrier.

Most Lib Dems, safe in the knowledge that they were never going to win here, voted Tory to try to keep UKIP out, which is completely understandable, indeed moral and creditable. If UKIP were a mathematical equation they would be Tories multiplied by Labour to the power of Racism. So basically the opposite of liberal democracy.

Did not work very well did it.

Not all noble acts get the reward they merit. The Lib Dems are living proof.

It did, however, mean that UKIP's margin of victory was much lower than predicted, and will hopefully inspire more cross-party tactical voting to keep the xenophobic horrors out of the House of Commons.

Strontium Dog wrote:Not all noble acts get the reward they merit. The Lib Dems are living proof.

It did, however, mean that UKIP's margin of victory was much lower than predicted, and will hopefully inspire more cross-party tactical voting to keep the xenophobic horrors out of the House of Commons.

Not much point if it does not work. Get a new voting system.

Oh you failed at that as well. A very good party just fails a bit well almost, no always. Yes the big loser party.