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Re: Ukraine Crisis

#2341  Postby Tortured_Genius » Dec 16, 2023 6:47 pm

Calilasseia wrote:Apparently the latest trick the Russians have devised, is to try and stop Neptune or Storm Shadow missiles from destroying their long range bombers, by covering said bombers in car tyres.


They started doing that months ago after a few quadcopter drones operated by partisans started bouncing grenades off some of their ewacs aircraft.

Contrary to that video, the tyres are there to stop insanely cheap drones (some of them made out of cardboard) from damaging the multi-million dollar aircraft, hence the positioning of the tyres on the upper surfaces where a small piece of explosive can wreak havoc on avionics or controls. Like the cope cages on tanks, they are sod all use against "proper" military munitions, but do have some utility against cheap drones that can be foiled by low tech solutions like netting.
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Re: Ukraine Crisis

#2342  Postby Tortured_Genius » Dec 23, 2023 4:15 pm

You've got to wonder why they bother:

Russia bans anti-war candidate from challenging Putin (BBC)

Independent politician Yekaterina Duntsova wanted to run on a platform to end the war with Ukraine.

But the electoral commission voted unanimously to reject her candidacy three days after her application, citing 100 "mistakes" on her form.

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The commission said 29 people have so far filed to run for the presidency. But after today's decision, Mr Putin remains the only candidate to be able to register as a candidate.


Why have an election at all? Is anyone fooled by this performance?
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Re: Ukraine Crisis

#2343  Postby tuco » Dec 23, 2023 5:10 pm

Perhaps a certain segment of the population?

We've debated here before claims that can be simplified as "Russia is different" with regards to "when bodybags start coming home" for example or in another thread, irrc, examining the popularity of Putin among Russians before the last election. I don't quite understand how anyone is fooled either but let's not forget that that the communists in Soviet Russia and the Soviet Bloc held elections for decades despite the results being pre-determined. Admittedly, in the digital age where information flows relatively freely, it is a bit different but still, even if nobody is fooled pretense seems important for totalitarians.
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Re: Ukraine Crisis

#2344  Postby Tortured_Genius » Dec 23, 2023 9:48 pm

tuco wrote:Admittedly, in the digital age where information flows relatively freely, it is a bit different but still, even if nobody is fooled pretense seems important for totalitarians.


Mummery and pretence - the currency of princes and kings rather than modern nation states.

A sop at legitimacy when they don't have a bishop to anoint them with the divine right of kings.

I think you have it there.

Go on Vlad, you know you want it:

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Re: Ukraine Crisis

#2345  Postby tuco » Dec 24, 2023 10:59 am

I guess, pretending to have a democratic election also has some consequences on the international stage. For example, when people hear about their representatives dealing with Putin, they do not necessarily need to know that the election was a fraud, but they know he was elected, and/or when foreign leaders deal with Putin they can pretend they are not dealing with a dictator-like figure, etc. I would also guess that there are Ph.D. theses or books written on the subject. I see it as PR. Is anyone fooled by PR? Well, it depends. How well-informed and biased one is.
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Re: Ukraine Crisis

#2346  Postby Agi Hammerthief » Dec 24, 2023 11:05 am

it also leaves the institutions in place that are required when he eventually kicks the bucket.
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Re: Ukraine Crisis

#2347  Postby Seabass » Dec 29, 2023 5:37 am

Ex-Russian GRU officer Salikov exposes Russia’s proxy Ukraine “republics” (full translation)
In a bombshell interview, Salikov, who arrived to testify at the ICC, tells how Russia manufactured a “local uprising” in eastern Ukraine, funneled weapons over the border, and shelled its own territory to keep the conflict going

Igor Salikov was a Russian GRU officer and former Wagner PMC fighter who defected after witnessing war crimes in Ukraine. Since 2014, he participated in Russia’s covert takeover of eastern Ukraine under the direction of Vladislav Surkov.

In a bombshell interview with Russian human rights activist, Gulagu.net founder Vladimir Osechkin, Salikov described how Surkov carefully crafted the narrative of a separatist uprising led by locals.

Russian proxies like Salikov were restricted to Soviet-era equipment to mask their involvement. Salikov even witnessed how forces under Aleksandr Zakharchenko deliberately shelled Russian-held areas like Donetsk cemetery, blaming Ukraine to manufacture pretexts for escalation.

Salikov realized no true “liberation” was underway – residents were pawns in a larger geopolitical scheme. Through propaganda, isolated incidents were exaggerated into fables of Ukrainian brutality used to justify further bloodshed. But on the ground, most citizens prioritized stability over external manipulation sold as “liberation.”

Salikov’s insider perspectives expose the lies and hybrid warfare tactics that enabled Russia’s long-term campaign. The interview will likely be used within the framework of an international investigation, and in the work of the Office of the Prosecutor of the International Criminal Court, which has issued an arrest warrant for Russian President Vladimir Putin.

We found this interview so important that, after writing its short overview, we created the English subtitles for the entire 2 hours of the video. Below is their shortened text version, adapted for clarity.


https://euromaidanpress.com/2023/12/29/ex-russian-gru-officer-salikov-exposes-russias-proxy-ukraine-republics-full-translation/
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Re: Ukraine Crisis

#2348  Postby Calilasseia » Dec 29, 2023 2:25 pm

A cynical land grab disguised as an .uprising? Colour me most surprised ... not ...
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Re: Ukraine Crisis

#2349  Postby Tortured_Genius » Dec 30, 2023 4:57 pm

The chutzpah is eye-watering.

Russia appears to have completely lost their shit over today's drone attacks on Belgorod that killed 14. They want a meeting of the UN security council:


In the last half-hour, Kremlin spokeswoman Maria Zakharova spoke to Russian news agency Tass about the attack in Belgorod. Here is a quick summary of what she said:

Russia has requested a meeting of the UN Security Council in the wake of events in Belgorod. (Russia has a powerful role on the council as a permanent member)

Britain and the United States are culpable for the "terrorist attack" on Belgorod because they "incite the Kyiv regime to carry out terrorist actions", she claims

EU countries that supply weapons to Ukraine are also responsible, she says


(From the BBC news feed)

Mind you - it's a blatant tactic to divert from Russia's latest missile and drone assault firing hundreds of weapons deliberately targeting civilian infrastructure (power, hospitals).

But FFS, Crimea River.
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Re: Ukraine Crisis

#2350  Postby don't get me started » Jan 01, 2024 10:08 am

Yeah, I was speaking to my friend in Lviv and she was telling me all about the sounds of rockets and explosions and her sister narrowly escaping (200m) the impact of a missile. She is not too sympathetic to the citizens of Belgorod.

The Russian state are such bleaters. When downtown Moscow (or any other Russian city) looks like Grozny or Bakhmut, then, perhaps they will have some notion of the events they have set in motion.
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Re: Ukraine Crisis

#2351  Postby Seabass » Jan 03, 2024 11:18 pm

UKRAINE’S STOLEN CHILDREN
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/12/26/world/europe/ukraine-war-children-russia.html
https://archive.is/rzKxS

Ukraine says it has verified the names of more than 19,000 children who have been transferred to Russia or Russian-controlled territory. Over recent months, 387 children like Sasha have been tracked down by relatives and brought back home, with the help of the charity Save Ukraine and SOS Children’s Villages Ukraine, among others.

Their accounts have helped officials and investigators build a picture of a Russian effort to remove children from Ukraine — often under the pretext of rescuing them from the war zone — to turn them against their homeland and into loyal Russian subjects. Some described a feeling that the Russian authorities used them to lure their Ukrainian families to the Russian side.

The Russian strategy was deliberate, premeditated and systematic, according to the accounts of dozens of children and their families, as well as evidence collected by Ukrainian and international human rights and war crimes organizations.

The Russian authorities relocated children from Ukrainian orphanages and certain schools en masse, according to Russian documents gathered by Lyudmyla Denisova, formerly Ukraine’s top human rights official, which she shared with The New York Times. Russian soldiers and police officers escorted the children on buses. Regional authorities housed the Ukrainian children and placed them with Russian foster families. A decree by President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia opened the way for Russian families to adopt Ukrainian children.

The exceptional scale and duration of the effort has little comparison in modern warfare, and the forcible transfer of children, war crimes investigators point out, can be an act of genocide under the Geneva Convention.

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Re: Ukraine Crisis

#2352  Postby Tortured_Genius » Jan 04, 2024 2:47 am

I came across a report about the latest Putin ally (Vladimir Egorov) to take up freestyle base-jumping out of high rise buildings and in my searches found that Wikipedia actually has a list of Russian business people to have had "accidents" over the last couple of years here.

It's an impressive list of about 50, and doesn't even include journalists and others who've also suddenly dropped dead. Apparently Anna Tsavera, deputy editor of "Putin's favourite newspaper", recently died suddenly under similar circumstances to her former boss who also died a year ago. These were Putin allies, so it looks like the knives are out amongst all factions.

Business as usual in Russian politics I suppose, but is a reminder that the "special military operation" could drag on for years or end very suddenly with Russian state TV staging a revival of Swan Lake.
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Re: Ukraine Crisis

#2353  Postby Calilasseia » Jan 04, 2024 6:07 am

Once again, it appears that Russian politics is consonant with my description thereof, as chess played with hand grenades ...
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Re: Ukraine Crisis

#2354  Postby Seabass » Feb 14, 2024 3:52 am

https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/tucker-carlson-promised-an-unedited-putin-the-result-was-boring

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I can’t get one passage out of my mind. In the history-lecture portion of the interview, when Putin got to 1939, he said, “Poland coöperated with Germany, but then it refused to comply with Hitler’s demands. . . . By not ceding the Danzig Corridor to Hitler, Poles forced him, they overplayed their hand and they forced Hitler to start the Second World War by attacking Poland.” (This is my translation.) The idea that the victim of the attack serves as its instigator by forcing the hand of the aggressor is central to all of Putin’s explanations for Russia’s war in Ukraine. To my knowledge, though, this was the first time he described Hitler’s aggression in the same terms.

Putin has reproduced Hitler’s rhetoric before. Ten years ago, announcing the annexation of Crimea, he seemed to borrow from Hitler’s speech on the annexation of Sudetenland. At the time, I assumed that the language had come from a speechwriter who knew what they were doing while Putin may not have. But the way Putin described the beginning of the Second World War in his interview with Carlson suggests that, although he keeps accusing Ukraine of fostering Nazism, in his mind he might see himself as Hitler, but perhaps a wilier one, one who can make inroads into the United States and create an alliance with its presumed future President.

It’s telling, too, that Putin took the time to accuse Poland of both allying with Nazi Germany and inciting Hitler’s aggression. As he has done with Ukraine in the past, he is positioning Poland as an heir to Nazism. He mentioned Poland more than thirty times in his conversation with Tucker. If I were Poland, I’d be scared.
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Re: Ukraine Crisis

#2355  Postby Calilasseia » Feb 14, 2024 8:19 pm

In other words, Putin is not only engaging in rampant revanchist fantasising about Ukraine, but now spreading this ideological poison to analysis of Polish history.

He's effectively trying to conjure out of thin air, a post hoc synthetic "justification" for a Russian version of Lebensraum.
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Re: Ukraine Crisis

#2356  Postby Seabass » Feb 14, 2024 10:37 pm

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Re: Ukraine Crisis

#2357  Postby don't get me started » Feb 14, 2024 11:12 pm

I heard Trump's invitation to Russia to attack NATO members that do not meet the 2% military spending target with disgust but not surprise.
(These unnamed members were characterized by Trump as countries who don't pay- of course there are no NATO members who have a zero military budget, but his easily led and highly suggestible audience will come away with that notion.)

I recognized it as a classic from the fascist playbook- the enemy is simultaneously strong and weak. On the one hand America is this global hegemon, exerting its malign influence through the blunt instrument of military presence in many lands. On the other hand, America is the poor sap nation being grifted out of billions by unscrupulous foreigners with nothing to show for all of the treasure expended.

It seems clear that Trump looks on Putin with both envy and admiration and dearly wishes to hold the same kind of unaccountable power in America that Putin has in Russia.
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Re: Ukraine Crisis

#2358  Postby The_Piper » Feb 15, 2024 5:04 am

don't get me started wrote:I heard Trump's invitation to Russia to attack NATO members that do not meet the 2% military spending target with disgust but not surprise.
(These unnamed members were characterized by Trump as countries who don't pay- of course there are no NATO members who have a zero military budget, but his easily led and highly suggestible audience will come away with that notion.)...

Zero surprise here too. He's among the shittiest of the pieces of shit, and is a danger to the whole globe when he says shit like this. When he dies there will be roaring celebrations for weeks all over the country, and hopefully other places around the world will imbibe with us, the actual silent majority.
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Re: Ukraine Crisis

#2359  Postby Tortured_Genius » Mar 02, 2024 8:54 pm

Russia publishes German army meeting on Ukraine (BBC)

Germany has admitted the apparent hack by Russia of a military meeting where officers discussed giving Ukraine long-range missiles - and possible targets.

Audio of the video-conference meeting was posted to social media by the head of Russia's state-run RT channel.

The officers discuss how the missiles could hit the Kerch Bridge, which links Russia to the illegally annexed Crimea.

Russian politicians said the audio proved that its "sworn enemy" was planning attacks.


This raises so many questions, not so much about the hack and content of the meeting, but why the Kremlin chose to publicise it.

To me this looks like a desperate attempt to dissuade Germany from supplying Taurus to Ukraine whilst shoring up crumbling public support for the war within Russia.
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Re: Ukraine Crisis

#2360  Postby Agi Hammerthief » Mar 02, 2024 9:09 pm

Tortured_Genius wrote:Russia publishes German army meeting on Ukraine (BBC)

Germany has admitted the apparent hack by Russia of a military meeting where officers discussed giving Ukraine long-range missiles - and possible targets.

Audio of the video-conference meeting was posted to social media by the head of Russia's state-run RT channel.

The officers discuss how the missiles could hit the Kerch Bridge, which links Russia to the illegally annexed Crimea.

Russian politicians said the audio proved that its "sworn enemy" was planning attacks.


This raises so many questions, not so much about the hack and content of the meeting, but why the Kremlin chose to publicise it.

To me this looks like a desperate attempt to dissuade Germany from supplying Taurus to Ukraine whilst shoring up crumbling public support for the war within Russia.

personally, I suspect Putin has information on Chancellor „I can’t Remember“ Scholz and his involvement in the cum/ex scandal.
Which is why Taurus is off the table till all of parlament votes him down on this issue.
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