Animavore wrote:

trubble76 wrote:

dalv8409 wrote:

willhud9 wrote:^^ That is my problem I am having with consoles. Too much online desires, too much trying to be like a computer and as a computer gamer, I find it laughable, because they are not even close to comparable.

I loved the N64, and PS/PS2 and even the Xbox. Why? Because they were consoles. They were created for offline games, and home entertainment. Have a party of friends over? Play Xbox or the N64. But now they are trying to dominate online play, and its silly. Want to play online? Buy a computer. It does not require you to buy an Xbox Live Gold account, and does not require you to put up with so-so graphics from a console. But that's just me.

I don't get this online play fetish either and in my opinion it is destroying the single player games. On websites I see people complain about online play with some games yet moan more about the single players aspect. Everyone I know who has a PS3 asks me what is my psn name so they could play a certain game we both have with me and I tell them my psn is only for the psn store and dlc.

I too lament the demise of single-player offline gaming. I don't like people, I don't even like the people I like, why do they think I'm going to like playing games with demented 12 year old kids from America with some sort of tourettes disorder.

Demise of single-player offline games? Not sure what you mean here. We just had the brilliant Tomb Raider and BioShock: Infinity. We have coming up Remember Me, The Last of Us, Beyond: Two Souls, GTA5, Dark Souls 2, Metro: Last Light, etc... No end of single-player games coming up.

As for screaming 12 year-olds - this is why I'd rather have the XBOX/PS4 demographic stay right where it is.

tuco wrote:Xbox One has non-replaceable hard drive, external storage is supported - http://www.engadget.com/2013/05/21/xbox-one-hard-drive/

How about SSD? No market for hmm its not even luxury .. high end version?

So apparantly, all games have to be installed onto the HDD. And each game is tied to only one Xbox Live account. And if the game finds itself being played on a different Xbox Live account, then that person has to pay a fee.

Jumbo wrote:

So apparantly, all games have to be installed onto the HDD. And each game is tied to only one Xbox Live account. And if the game finds itself being played on a different Xbox Live account, then that person has to pay a fee.

Reminds me of steam on a PC apart from the bit about being able to play it on a 2nd account for a fee. Steam doesn't let you play at all on another account.

Microsoft won't let indies self-publish on Xbox One

In contrast to Sony with its PlayStation Store, Nintendo with its eShop and Valve with Steam, Microsoft won't let independent developers self-publish on Xbox One.

Jumbo wrote:

So apparantly, all games have to be installed onto the HDD. And each game is tied to only one Xbox Live account. And if the game finds itself being played on a different Xbox Live account, then that person has to pay a fee.

Reminds me of steam on a PC apart from the bit about being able to play it on a 2nd account for a fee. Steam doesn't let you play at all on another account.

Animavore wrote:
Demise of single-player offline games? Not sure what you mean here. We just had the brilliant Tomb Raider and BioShock: Infinity. We have coming up Remember Me, The Last of Us, Beyond: Two Souls, GTA5, Dark Souls 2, Metro: Last Light, etc... No end of single-player games coming up.

As for screaming 12 year-olds - this is why I'd rather have the XBOX/PS4 demographic stay right where it is.

aban57 wrote:

Animavore wrote:
Demise of single-player offline games? Not sure what you mean here. We just had the brilliant Tomb Raider and BioShock: Infinity. We have coming up Remember Me, The Last of Us, Beyond: Two Souls, GTA5, Dark Souls 2, Metro: Last Light, etc... No end of single-player games coming up.

As for screaming 12 year-olds - this is why I'd rather have the XBOX/PS4 demographic stay right where it is.

You forgot the game that will put all the other ones to the trash : Watch Dogs

BBC
Microsoft faces a backlash from some gamers after it emerged the company may charge a fee to play pre-owned games on its new Xbox One console.

It would also mean borrowing a game from a friend will require a payment to play, possibly the full price.

Microsoft has said gamers will be able to trade their used games online - but refused to give more details.

Xbox One pre-owned games may require fee payment
Microsoft faces a backlash from some gamers after it emerged the company may charge a fee to play pre-owned games on its new Xbox One console.

It would also mean borrowing a game from a friend will require a payment to play, possibly the full price.

Microsoft has said gamers will be able to trade their used games online - but refused to give more details.

Microsoft's director of programming, Larry Hryb, admitted there had been some "confusion" around the policy.

An official Xbox support account on Twitter had initially told fans that no fee would be needed for used games, but a later comment from Mr Hryb sought to clarify the situation.