Nora_Leonard wrote:That seems likely, as the declaration of faith, i.e. the shahadah (in English: There is no god but God (i.e. Allah), Muhammad is the messenger of God)is really the only thing you need to say to become a Muslim.

wikipedia wrote:A single honest recitation of the shahadah in Arabic is all that is required for a person to become a Muslim.

Oeditor wrote:

Nora_Leonard wrote:That seems likely, as the declaration of faith, i.e. the shahadah (in English: There is no god but God (i.e. Allah), Muhammad is the messenger of God)is really the only thing you need to say to become a Muslim.

wikipedia wrote:A single honest recitation of the shahadah in Arabic is all that is required for a person to become a Muslim.

Honest? What about forced conversion of kidnapped woman and girls? Or do they say it "honestly" because they fear the consequences if they don't?

Nora_Leonard wrote:

Oeditor wrote:

Nora_Leonard wrote:That seems likely, as the declaration of faith, i.e. the shahadah (in English: There is no god but God (i.e. Allah), Muhammad is the messenger of God)is really the only thing you need to say to become a Muslim.

wikipedia wrote:A single honest recitation of the shahadah in Arabic is all that is required for a person to become a Muslim.

Honest? What about forced conversion of kidnapped woman and girls? Or do they say it "honestly" because they fear the consequences if they don't?

Presumably a genuine Muslim would not consider those people forced to say the Shahadah to be Muslims.

Animavore wrote:

Nora_Leonard wrote:

Oeditor wrote:

Nora_Leonard wrote:That seems likely, as the declaration of faith, i.e. the shahadah (in English: There is no god but God (i.e. Allah), Muhammad is the messenger of God)is really the only thing you need to say to become a Muslim.

Honest? What about forced conversion of kidnapped woman and girls? Or do they say it "honestly" because they fear the consequences if they don't?

Presumably a genuine Muslim would not consider those people forced to say the Shahadah to be Muslims.

Genuine Muslim?

areyoumuslim wrote:Dear all,

To clarify, I was using the terms "islam" and "iman" as per Quran's usage. Not the socio-cultural mainstream usage, in which they are commonly used.

And according to Quran declaring "There is no God but Allah, and Muhammed is his servant and messenger" is not a requirement for being "muslim". Please check Quran for yourself.

As stated previously, the quiz is based on Quran and the heading clearly states at the top "20 questions to test your compatibility with the Quran", not Islam (as in 'religion known of as "Islam"). They are different things, and some authors have written books about it, e.g. http://www.tolueislam.org/Parwez/ICR/ICR.htm for those interested.

To verify heading please see http://www.AreYouMuslim.com

areyoumuslim wrote:And according to Quran declaring "There is no God but Allah, and Muhammed is his servant and messenger" is not a requirement for being "muslim". Please check Quran for yourself.

15. Would you like a belief system which clearly states how it proves itself?

17. "Faith not supported by reason and empirical evidence is wishful thinking."

Shrunk wrote:

areyoumuslim wrote:And according to Quran declaring "There is no God but Allah, and Muhammed is his servant and messenger" is not a requirement for being "muslim". Please check Quran for yourself.

Further, I not only checked the Quran, but your own website. And both contradict what you have written here:

http://learn-about-islam.com/2011/10/31 ... -of-islam/

How can you accept the verses quoted on that page without accepting that there is only one god, and Muhammed was his servant and messenger?

Nicko wrote:If you do not believe that there is one - and only one - god, you cannot honestly say that you are a Muslim.

If you do not believe that Muhammad was the messenger of God, you cannot honestly say that you are a Muslim.

All one has to do to honestly say that one is a Muslim is to believe that there is one - and only one - god and that Muhammad was his messenger. Beyond that, Islam's a pretty broad tent.

This is actually one of Islam's best points: that you only have to take two things on faith; everything else flows from those two articles of faith.

Nicko wrote:If you do not believe that Muhammad was the messenger of God, you cannot honestly say that you are a Muslim.

All one has to do to honestly say that one is a Muslim is to believe that there is one - and only one - god and that Muhammad was his messenger. Beyond that, Islam's a pretty broad tent.

This is actually one of Islam's best points: that you only have to take two things on faith; everything else flows from those two articles of faith.

HomerJay wrote:

1. Do you believe in environmental conservation?
Yes {XXX -- Stein}
No
Undecided

2. If God exists, do you believe there can only be one God?
Yes
No
Undecided {XXX -- Stein}

3. Do you believe there is only one true religion rather than elements of truth in many religions?
Yes
No {XXX -- Stein}
Undecided


4. Do you believe in "Original Sin", i.e. a child carries the sins of another into this world?
Yes
No {XXX -- Stein}
Undecided


5. Do you think the law of requital is fair, i.e. equivalence: what good you do will be given back to you (in the next life if there is one), what bad you do will be given back to you (in the next life if there is one)?
Yes
No
Undecided {XXX -- Stein}


6. Do you think women should fully cover their body in terms of their dress?
Yes
No {XXX -- Stein}
Undecided


7. Do you believe if God exists, only God can forgive sins? For example, no intermediaries can forgive sins, unlike confession in Catholicism.
Yes {XXX -- Stein}
No
Undecided


8. Do you believe victims of crimes and/or their families should have a say in the penalty for such crimes?
Yes
No
Undecided {XXX -- Stein}


9. Do you believe in certain circumstances the death penalty could be warranted?
Yes
No {XXX -- Stein}
Undecided


10. "Be the change you want to see in the world."
Strongly Agree {XXX -- Stein}
Fairly Agree
Undecided
Disagree
Strongly Disagree


11. Do you believe humans collectively have a natural instinct towards what is right and what is wrong?
Yes {XXX -- Stein}
No
Undecided


12. Do you feel that many of those considered divine prophets/messengers (if they existed), e.g. Abraham, Moses, Jesus, Muhammad delivered the same basic message of oneness of God, oneness of mankind and doing good deeds?
Yes {XXX -- Stein}
No
Undecided


13. Do you believe that there is a purpose for our existence?
Yes {XXX -- Stein}
No
Undecided


14. Do you believe that mutual consultation should play a part in resolving the issues of the people?
Yes {XXX -- Stein}
No
Undecided


15. Would you like a belief system which clearly states how it proves itself?
Yes {XXX -- Stein}
No
Undecided


16. Do you agree with the following: Actions speak louder than Words?
Yes {XXX -- Stein}
No
Undecided


17. "Faith not supported by reason and empirical evidence is wishful thinking."
Strongly Agree {XXX -- Stein}
Fairly Agree
Undecided
Disagree
Strongly Disagree


18. Do you think the harm caused by alcohol/intoxicants is greater than their benefits?
Yes
No
Undecided {XXX -- Stein}


19. Do you think freedom of speech and freedom of belief/religion is a fundamental right?
Yes {XXX -- Stein}
No
Undecided


20. Do you believe it is an individual's duty to distribute some of their wealth to the needy and promote social welfare?
Yes {XXX -- Stein}
No
Undecided

The concept of original sin simply does not exist in Islam, and never has. For the Christian readers, the question is not whether the concept of original sin exists in present day, but whether it existed during the period of Christian origins. Specifically, did Jesus teach it?

Apparently not. Whoever dreamt up the concept, it certainly wasn’t Jesus, for he reportedly taught,

aliihsanasl wrote:Fourth question is totally against Islamic teaching. There is no Original Sin in Islam its a Christian tradition.

HomerJay wrote:...3. Do you believe there is only one true religion rather than elements of truth in many religions?..