Prof Mark Elliott, the deputy chair of law at the University of Cambridge, said using the royal prerogative in this way would flout the 1688 Bill of Rights. He told Today: “Any suggestion that the prerogative could be used for this purpose is entirely without foundation, and would be directly contrary to the basic principle of parliament’s sovereignty.”

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... -misplaced

1. Double cross (deal approved)
2. Suspend the law (Major's fear)
3. Get EU to reject extension request
4. Two conflicting laws (EU withdrawal vs Benn)
5. Ignore the law
6. Another loophole?

An SNP MP has said there could be a vote of no confidence in the government early next week aimed at replacing Boris Johnson as prime minister.

Stewart Hosie told the BBC such a move may be the only way of avoiding a no-deal Brexit on 31 October.

SNP leader Nicola Sturgeon hinted on Friday she might back Jeremy Corbyn becoming a "caretaker" prime minister.

The Liberal Democrats have, however, said Mr Corbyn is too divisive a figure to play such a role.

[...]

Liberal Democrat leader Jo Swinson has said an "emergency government" may be necessary but argued that MPs from all parties would not be able to unite around Mr Corbyn as a temporary leader.

She said her party had suggested other MPs as possibilities, including senior MPs who are planning to step down at the next election.

Mr Hosie said: "If another name came forward that was acceptable to everybody, a Ken Clarke or Dominic Grieve-type figure, then self-evidently that would be a good thing to do." he said.

"But it is also self-evidently the case that the second largest party (Labour) should have the first chance to form that administration.

"If Jo Swinson and the Lib Dems are actually serious about their stopping Brexit position then they need to stop playing political games, get on board with everybody else."

But listen, Tory mooks – I’m here to help. While you’re getting a tiki torch and standing a post, let me tell you what a “people vs parliament” election ultimately means for you. First, if you whip up an angry mob, why do you assume they won’t end up angry with you? Do you think the mob is going to come upon an MP and go, “Wait, wait – this is so-and-so. He voted for Meaningful Votes 2 and 3, so we should, you know, definitely not put our pitchforks up his arse”? Eventually, you’re going to get a pitchfork up your arse either way.

To adapt that phrase of the alt-right to whom you tack closer every day: mobs don’t care about your feelings. If I had to come up with an adjective to help you understand mobs, it would probably be mob-like. Very mobby. Mobtastic. If you go to the country in a people v parliament election, you may indeed get elected and be part of a triumphant Tory majority. But when you have been elected, and when you’ve “got Brexit done” – which is to say, when you’ve either taken the UK off the no-deal cliff, or opened up the next however many painful years of trade negotiations fuckery-pokery, which is never going to solve the problems it is magically supposed to – you, then, are “parliament”.

The even angrier people are then versus YOU.

[...]

What’s amazing, given he’s written all of this stuff down, and at length, is the selective deafness of the Tories going along with it. They hear the stuff Dom is saying about things being swept away. But they don’t hear the bits that will eventually mean them.

Consider the irony of the European Research Group currently obeying a man who described them as a “narcissist-delusional subset”, adding: “You should be treated like a metastasising tumour and excised from the UK body politic.” It’s not a hugely opaque statement.

tuco wrote:The EU is the enemy to them.

mrjonno wrote:If the Sun says it is the Brexit people were promised they will believe it regardless of reality.

ronmcd wrote:Boris Johnson no-confidence vote 'next week', says SNP MP Stewart Hosie

An SNP MP has said there could be a vote of no confidence in the government early next week aimed at replacing Boris Johnson as prime minister.

Stewart Hosie told the BBC such a move may be the only way of avoiding a no-deal Brexit on 31 October.

SNP leader Nicola Sturgeon hinted on Friday she might back Jeremy Corbyn becoming a "caretaker" prime minister.

The Liberal Democrats have, however, said Mr Corbyn is too divisive a figure to play such a role.

[...]

Liberal Democrat leader Jo Swinson has said an "emergency government" may be necessary but argued that MPs from all parties would not be able to unite around Mr Corbyn as a temporary leader.

She said her party had suggested other MPs as possibilities, including senior MPs who are planning to step down at the next election.

Mr Hosie said: "If another name came forward that was acceptable to everybody, a Ken Clarke or Dominic Grieve-type figure, then self-evidently that would be a good thing to do." he said.

"But it is also self-evidently the case that the second largest party (Labour) should have the first chance to form that administration.

"If Jo Swinson and the Lib Dems are actually serious about their stopping Brexit position then they need to stop playing political games, get on board with everybody else."

OlivierK wrote:Swinson seems to be opposing Corbyn in the hope that if she rejects him as caretaker PM often enough, someone, somewhere will suggest her for the job.

ronmcd wrote:

mrjonno wrote:If the Sun says it is the Brexit people were promised they will believe it regardless of reality.

I think you massively overestimate the newspapers reach these days.

Agi Hammerthief wrote:

ronmcd wrote:

mrjonno wrote:If the Sun says it is the Brexit people were promised they will believe it regardless of reality.

I think you massively overestimate the newspapers reach these days.

reach to readers is not required.
Many politicians, on the other hand, probably still think that mrjonno‘s statement is true.

aufbahrung wrote:Shorting the people. Betting on a population decline post-brexit to overcome the UK's housing/power deficits and the burden so many place on capital. That's what is really going on. Behind closed doors, where the devious Cummings of the world lurk. They know precisely what they are doing and why. You'd think the public has a say in this reading this thread. How much naivety can there be?