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Re: Microsoft announces Windows 10

#221  Postby Skinny Puppy » Jul 21, 2016 7:22 pm

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Microsoft's service agreement is a monstrous 12,000 words in length, about the size of a novella. And who reads those, right? Well, here's one excerpt from Microsoft's terms of use that you might want to read:

We will access, disclose and preserve personal data, including your content (such as the content of your emails, other private communications or files in private folders), when we have a good faith belief that doing so is necessary to.
(My red highlight)



Interesting. Can you show us the actual Microsoft document this comes from? I can't seem to find it.



The EULA, which appears during the Windows 10 setup, can also be read after the fact by clicking "Settings" in the Start menu, selecting "System" and then choosing the "About" option on the left. Clicking the link "Read the Microsoft Software License Terms" brings up the EULA.


http://www.computerworld.com/article/2949324/operating-systems/windows-10-license-confirms-no-warning-automatic-updates-and-upgrades.html#tk.ctw-cio
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#222  Postby Animavore » Jul 21, 2016 7:30 pm

BlackBart wrote:
Skinny Puppy wrote:
Microsoft's service agreement is a monstrous 12,000 words in length, about the size of a novella. And who reads those, right? Well, here's one excerpt from Microsoft's terms of use that you might want to read:

We will access, disclose and preserve personal data, including your content (such as the content of your emails, other private communications or files in private folders), when we have a good faith belief that doing so is necessary to.
(My red highlight)



Interesting. Can you show us the actual Microsoft document this comes from? I can't seem to find it.

The bit in brackets was put in there by the author deliberately to mislead, probably due to some agenda. As I've said, the article I posted a few pages ago has dealt with this.
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Re: Microsoft announces Windows 10

#223  Postby BlackBart » Jul 21, 2016 7:38 pm

Skinny Puppy wrote:
BlackBart wrote:
Skinny Puppy wrote:
Microsoft's service agreement is a monstrous 12,000 words in length, about the size of a novella. And who reads those, right? Well, here's one excerpt from Microsoft's terms of use that you might want to read:

We will access, disclose and preserve personal data, including your content (such as the content of your emails, other private communications or files in private folders), when we have a good faith belief that doing so is necessary to.
(My red highlight)



Interesting. Can you show us the actual Microsoft document this comes from? I can't seem to find it.



The EULA, which appears during the Windows 10 setup, can also be read after the fact by clicking "Settings" in the Start menu, selecting "System" and then choosing the "About" option on the left. Clicking the link "Read the Microsoft Software License Terms" brings up the EULA.


http://www.computerworld.com/article/2949324/operating-systems/windows-10-license-confirms-no-warning-automatic-updates-and-upgrades.html#tk.ctw-cio


Which does not provide any document which contains the text you highlighted in red.
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Re: Microsoft announces Windows 10

#224  Postby Skinny Puppy » Jul 21, 2016 9:24 pm

Animavore wrote:
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Microsoft's service agreement is a monstrous 12,000 words in length, about the size of a novella. And who reads those, right? Well, here's one excerpt from Microsoft's terms of use that you might want to read:

We will access, disclose and preserve personal data, including your content (such as the content of your emails, other private communications or files in private folders), when we have a good faith belief that doing so is necessary to.
(My red highlight)



Interesting. Can you show us the actual Microsoft document this comes from? I can't seem to find it.

The bit in brackets was put in there by the author deliberately to mislead, probably due to some agenda. As I've said, the article I posted a few pages ago has dealt with this.


No it wasn't put there deliberately to mislead. it's from here.
Reasons We Share Personal Data
Finally, we will access, disclose and preserve personal data, including your content (such as the content of your emails in Outlook.com, or files in private folders on OneDrive), when we have a good faith belief that doing so is necessary to:[...]


https://privacy.microsoft.com/en-us/privacystatement/?tduid=(d3fb9c3b219de6dc9035252890100e0c)(256380)(2459594)(TnL5HPStwNw-itGY5RZR_JHiyC2_eokH6Q)()
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Re: Microsoft announces Windows 10

#225  Postby Animavore » Jul 21, 2016 9:31 pm

Um... yeah, it was. The words aren't the same. Deliberately so.
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#226  Postby DoctorE » Jul 21, 2016 9:34 pm

Here is what it actually says

Reasons We Share Personal Data
We share your personal data with your consent or as necessary to complete any transaction or provide any service you have requested or authorized. We also share data with Microsoft-controlled affiliates and subsidiaries; with vendors working on our behalf; when required by law or to respond to legal process; to protect our customers; to protect lives; to maintain the security of our services; and to protect the rights or property of Microsoft.
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#227  Postby Animavore » Jul 21, 2016 9:36 pm

Good catch.
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#228  Postby Fallible » Jul 22, 2016 10:38 am

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Re: Microsoft announces Windows 10

#229  Postby tuco » Jul 22, 2016 11:07 am

Just a side note, free upgrade to Win 10 offer expires in a week, on July 29th.
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#230  Postby Scot Dutchy » Jul 22, 2016 1:03 pm

tuco wrote:Just a side note, free upgrade to Win 10 offer expires in a week, on July 29th.


I will wait for Win11.
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Re: Microsoft announces Windows 10

#231  Postby tuco » Jul 22, 2016 1:10 pm

When are those coming out? I had 8.1 on notebook and was under impression MS would alert me of free upgrade deadline and either I missed the alert or there was none, so I upgraded "manually" just few days ago. That is why I posted the side note, for other ignorants like me :)
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Re: Microsoft announces Windows 10

#232  Postby BlackBart » Jul 22, 2016 1:14 pm

Scot Dutchy wrote:
tuco wrote:Just a side note, free upgrade to Win 10 offer expires in a week, on July 29th.


I will wait for Win11.


You'll have a long wait. Windows 10 was the last version, they'll just be providing updates for it from hereon in.
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#233  Postby Skinny Puppy » Jul 22, 2016 1:20 pm

Animavore wrote:Um... yeah, it was. The words aren't the same. Deliberately so.


Um, did you by chance read ‘Last Updated’? ‘cause dates of publications and changes are a dead giveaway.
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#234  Postby Skinny Puppy » Jul 22, 2016 1:24 pm

Animavore wrote:Good catch.


Yes that was a good catch! I had thought (naively) :doh: that by only bolding the header in large print and adding the link directly below it that no one would have a hope in hell of discovering my obvious ruse and my blatant attempt to hide that information to further my conspiracy agenda.

And speaking of that ‘good catch’; reading it (from a contract law POV) should send shivers up one’s spine, unless of course, one’s personal data is already an open book.
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#235  Postby Animavore » Jul 22, 2016 2:03 pm

Skinny Puppy wrote:
Animavore wrote:Good catch.


Yes that was a good catch! I had thought (naively) :doh: that by only bolding the header in large print and adding the link directly below it that no one would have a hope in hell of discovering my obvious ruse and my blatant attempt to hide that information to further my conspiracy agenda.

And speaking of that ‘good catch’; reading it (from a contract law POV) should send shivers up one’s spine, unless of course, one’s personal data is already an open book.

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#236  Postby Animavore » Jul 22, 2016 2:18 pm

Puppy says he got what he posted from the link he provided.

Here's what he said.

Reasons We Share Personal Data
Finally, we will access, disclose and preserve personal data, including your content (such as the content of your emails in Outlook.com, or files in private folders on OneDrive), when we have a good faith belief that doing so is necessary to:[...]


Here's what's in the link.

Reasons We Share Personal Data
We share your personal data with your consent or as necessary to complete any transaction or provide any service you have requested or authorized. We also share data with Microsoft-controlled affiliates and subsidiaries; with vendors working on our behalf; when required by law or to respond to legal process; to protect our customers; to protect lives; to maintain the security of our services; and to protect the rights or property of Microsoft.

https://privacy.microsoft.com/en-us/pri ... 2890100e0c)(256380)(2459594)(TnL5HPStwNw-itGY5RZR_JHiyC2_eokH6Q)()

:dunno:

It's also explicitly states.

However, we do not use what you say in email, chat, video calls or voice mail, or your documents, photos or other personal files to target ads to you.


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#237  Postby VazScep » Jul 22, 2016 2:59 pm

Animavore wrote:Puppy says he got what he posted from the link he provided.

Here's what he said.

Reasons We Share Personal Data
Finally, we will access, disclose and preserve personal data, including your content (such as the content of your emails in Outlook.com, or files in private folders on OneDrive), when we have a good faith belief that doing so is necessary to:[...]
This is in the link. Search for "Finally, we will".
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#238  Postby Skinny Puppy » Jul 22, 2016 3:06 pm

Animavore wrote:Puppy says he got what he posted from the link he provided.

Here's what he said.

Reasons We Share Personal Data
Finally, we will access, disclose and preserve personal data, including your content (such as the content of your emails in Outlook.com, or files in private folders on OneDrive), when we have a good faith belief that doing so is necessary to:[...]


Here's what's in the link.

Reasons We Share Personal Data
We share your personal data with your consent or as necessary to complete any transaction or provide any service you have requested or authorized. We also share data with Microsoft-controlled affiliates and subsidiaries; with vendors working on our behalf; when required by law or to respond to legal process; to protect our customers; to protect lives; to maintain the security of our services; and to protect the rights or property of Microsoft.

https://privacy.microsoft.com/en-us/pri ... 2890100e0c)(256380)(2459594)(TnL5HPStwNw-itGY5RZR_JHiyC2_eokH6Q)()

:dunno:

It's also explicitly states.

However, we do not use what you say in email, chat, video calls or voice mail, or your documents, photos or other personal files to target ads to you.


:dunno:



Personal Data We Collect

(I didn't quote it as it's there to read.)

So you’re fine (a happy camper) with that?
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#239  Postby Animavore » Jul 22, 2016 3:07 pm

VazScep wrote:
Animavore wrote:Puppy says he got what he posted from the link he provided.

Here's what he said.

Reasons We Share Personal Data
Finally, we will access, disclose and preserve personal data, including your content (such as the content of your emails in Outlook.com, or files in private folders on OneDrive), when we have a good faith belief that doing so is necessary to:[...]
This is in the link. Search for "Finally, we will".


I did.
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#240  Postby Animavore » Jul 22, 2016 3:09 pm

Skinny Puppy wrote:
(I didn't quote it as it's there to read.)


(no it isn't)
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